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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 03:25 |
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jk
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Nikon released information on the new Z7ii and Z6ii very early this morning. Essentially some internal tweaks and upgrades and an extra processor makes the cameras faster. Plus for the paranoid users there is a second UHS-II SD card slot. More info here. https://www.dpreview.com/news/9554068841/nikon-z6-ii-and-z7-ii-boast-dual-processors-and-gain-a-second-card-slot
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 05:04 |
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jk
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If you want extra power and duration for time-lapse, video the new MB-N11 battery pack will be a must have item. https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/power-packs/mb-n11-power-battery-pack.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-Overview
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 05:07 |
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jk
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I have to ask the question to myself. Do I want this upgrade to my Z7. Yes some of the new features will be nice to have but I would want to use the Z7ii to see if they have fixed some of the annoyances on the Z7 e.g. the need to change both release mode and exposure bracketing settings to get a full exposure range set. However the updates are very much like the 's' updates in D2, D3 and D300 models. Non-essential for most users but a must-have if it fixes a big annoyance.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 06:17 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I have to ask the question to myself. How many exposures have you taken on your Z7? It may be indicative as to whether you are getting enough use out of it to warrant an upgrade. Since getting the D850 and reassessing my own photography 'needs and habits' I have come to the realisation that any other camera would sit on the shelf 99 times out of 100....so why buy something with that prospect? For me at least, the days of having a camera and lens for every eventuality have gone. Having a camera and lens collection that satisfies even 80% of my needs is good enough. I have always been a minimalist. 😆. We have a saying in our house “ we much prefer it's space to it's company†When lightroom came out and enabled sorting 'by focal length', I discovered 95% of my photography was using 2 zoom lenses. So I sold the rest. It's true I have bought (and sold again) new cameras & lenses, but I have never had to re-buy a camera or lens I got rid of. So I sort of regard that as a correct action plan.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 07:25 |
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chrishamer
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It's certainly interesting, I've ordered the Z6 mk II - the Z7 isn't as good for video so sticking with the Z6 series... I've ordered it from Amazon so I can decide if it's worth the upgrade or not - their returns are a lot more flexible than some other retailers... even though I loathe not to support my local camera store... The MB-N11 though... £360 is outrageous...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 08:19 |
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jk
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Eric wrote:How many exposures have you taken on your Z7? It may be indicative as to whether you are getting enough use out of it to warrant an upgrade. I understand your thought process but not an ethos I follow. The second hand value of cameras is very poor (1/3-1/4 of purchase price after 2 years) and the resale price in second hand market by dealers is hugely inflated (~twice the purchase in trade-in or more). On that basis I prefer to just keep and reuse as appropriate. So my D3S can now be used for portraits and some general work and copying of negatives and prints, as 12MP is sharp enough. My Fujis tend to have very low second hand value so I just keep and convert to IR or Full Spectrum use. Lenses are difficult. They are once again purchased low by dealers and sold high. I have seen a friend's long telephoto lens that he sold for £550 then sold on by a dealer for £1300. This is a nice profit for the dealer! So my view is I sell to people I know at a reasonable price which is lower than the cost of second hand purchase and more to me than a dealer would give me. At this stage the dead money is not an issue as it is spent money and the trade-in money is coppers!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 08:22 |
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jk
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chrishamer wrote:It's certainly interesting, I've ordered the Z6 mk II - the Z7 isn't as good for video so sticking with the Z6 series... I've ordered it from Amazon so I can decide if it's worth the upgrade or not - their returns are a lot more flexible than some other retailers... even though I loathe not to support my local camera store... Will be interested to see your YouTube report and comparison. I agree the MB-N11 is horribly priced! Too expensive. The Meike version will be out next year and be £100 and it is less well built but probably that makes no difference unless you need the battery grip for everyday use.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 09:11 |
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Eric
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jk wrote: I understand your thought process but not an ethos I follow. The second hand value of cameras is very poor (1/3-1/4 of purchase price after 2 years) and the resale price in second hand market by dealers is hugely inflated (~twice the purchase in trade-in or more). On that basis I prefer to just keep and reuse as appropriate. So my D3S can now be used for portraits and some general work and copying of negatives and prints, as 12MP is sharp enough. My Fujis tend to have very low second hand value so I just keep and convert to IR or Full Spectrum use. Lenses are difficult. They are once again purchased low by dealers and sold high. I have seen a friend's long telephoto lens that he sold for £550 then sold on by a dealer for £1300. This is a nice profit for the dealer! So my view is I sell to people I know at a reasonable price which is lower than the cost of second hand purchase and more to me than a dealer would give me. At this stage the dead money is not an issue as it is spent money and the trade-in money is coppers! I agree it is 'yesterday's money'. But I hate to see stuff sitting idle. I guess that's my peculiarity? (Or one of them ) I've always regarded money as a 'lubricant to life'. So adding a few drips back (trade in or resale) into the purchasing programme makes the next purchase a little let painless. I see no difference in letting something sit devaluing for years and years, to a dealer capitalising on your decision to divest....you still lost a % of the investment. The difference is that if you do it sooner than later, the % you get still has buying capacity. Of course it's better if you can sell to a friend or a private sale. Dealers have to make a living to be there to sell you new stuff. I don't see them as the devil incarnate for wanting to make a profit. You could arguably hold the view that the manufacturers are the real bandits, over charging for the equipment in the first place. It gives resellers lots more headroom for good quality used items. I've rarely bought equipment in the first wave. Buying new, 12-18months after release, significantly reduces the cost to a more palatable level ...and the technology is still leading. It just needs suppression of the urge to buy now......easy for a Yorkshireman.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 09:46 |
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Eric wrote:jk wrote: I agree it is 'yesterday's money'. But I hate to see stuff sitting idle. I guess that's my peculiarity? (Or one of them ) ------------------ Just to wade in here (sorry) I think both your arguments are valid. I sit between both to be honest, if I find I'm not using lenses I tend to sell and either save it for future purchases or change to something different. Bodies are harder, I tend to shift them quicker as the value drops faster - as jk pointed out. Though if I stick with the Z6 II, I'll probably sell my Z6 as it is for around £1000-£1100, which isn't bad given I bought it used with the FTZ and 24-70 F4 for £1800 and I'd keep the adapter and lens - I lucked out in that it still has a john lewis warranty till may which some buyers will value. I'm not sure I'd be quite as tempted to old bodies, the only one I regret selling was my D1, but that's purely sentimental.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 09:48 |
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jk wrote:Will be interested to see your YouTube report and comparison. Yeah I don't get it on the MB-N11, it feels like Nikon are really saying, 'you wanted that grip so bad, no bloody pay for it' And thanks, if I receive it on Nov 5th (Amazon seems to think so but the TC 2.0X Z is now 2 months late) I'll have something up within a week I reckon. Then follow up with something more in-depth by December ish
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