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Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 10:08 |
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Until my D610 can't do what I want, I'll be staying with it - the mirror is actually quite quiet, certainly much quieter than the D90!
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 03:36 |
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Eric wrote:Not sure why silent camera operation is such a must have? I can understand manufacturers wanting to reduce camera complexity and remove mechanisms that may fail over time. But wildlife photographers have gotten by with a bit of mirror slap for 50+years. In many venues photography is strongly discouraged; churches during the wedding ceremony being but one. Even a quiet shutter and mirror can be enough to draw attention to a photographer who flouts the rules. I assume therefore that a truly silent camera is desirable for those who don't want to be constrained by other people's requirements. I am sure there are other circumstances where photography is permitted but the noise of the quietest SLR might be a distraction, possibly dangerously so, to performers. In that case silence would be highly desirable. Most of the time however I don't see the problem with the shutter/mirror sound.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 03:39 |
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chrisbet wrote:Until my D610 can't do what I want, I'll be staying with it - the mirror is actually quite quiet, certainly much quieter than the D90! I was playing with an F5 a few days ago, to see if VR worked with it as it happens, and I took a couple of shots on the ancient film that was in it. The shutter noise is quite different from that of the D4, not louder but of a different character.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 04:28 |
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Intrigued by iain's comment re the 780 I had a browse in Ken Rockwell's website - "I love my Nikon D780 over everything mirrorless because, like the real camera it is, everything just works and GOES! instantly. There's never any waiting as with mirrorless; my D780 responds instantly to every button or shutter press, its autofocus is much faster than any Nikon Z camera and all its memory and saving functions work as they should, letting me recall all my settings in the flick of a dial to reset my camera completely between my favorite combinations of shooting settings. On Nikon's fancier cameras like the D5, D6 and D850 I have to stop and fiddle in idiotic "Shooting Menus" and in "Settings Menus" to do what happens with one click on my D780, ensuring I get my shot as conditions change rapidly. Also unlike any mirrorless camera, saving my settings to a card saves and recalls everything without forgetting anything. All mirrorless attempts at this easy function today have failed: the Nikon Z6, Z7 and Sony A7R Mk IV all forget and reset their shooting memories when you recall settings from a card! Losers! Better than any Nikon mirrorless camera, the D780 has two card slots, and they're for world-standard SD cards, not QXD or other expensive boutique frou-frou cards you can't find anywhere. Bravo D780! I so love getting a real DSLR again after having wasted so much time with mirrorless these past two years since my glorious D850 came out. I hate having to wait for my camera to respond to my commands; I need a camera that serves me, not one that expects me to wait for it and expend my time, effort and concentration working around its defective firmware that's always updating. With my D780, it just goes and I get work done, instead of waiting in quiet desperation for firmware fixes that never come."
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 05:53 |
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I have no wish to change what I have got they work. I have tried Z7 & Z6 and was not at all impressed no doubt this new so caller lower price offering will be more of less so! Look at the price!!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 06:23 |
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chrisbet wrote:Intrigued by iain's comment re the 780 I had a browse in Ken Rockwell's website - I would be very careful believing what Ken Rockwell says. I am sure the D780 is very good but I have never used it. There is always some start-up lag from first switch on. I dont think that the D850 behaves any differently to the D780 and indeed I would be very surprised if the D780 outperformed the D850. My D850 does have a startup time, it is small but noticeable. It is not instant on but is a trifle quicker than the Z7.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 06:48 |
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I didn't realise that there was a startup lag - reminds me of my brother's digital camera (no idea what make) which missed every opportunity because it took seconds to warm up! So used to just picking up the 610 flicking it on and shooting without delay! That would seriously put me off going mirrorless and the reason I use linux not windows - just cannot abide waiting for technology to faff around!
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 07:16 |
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chrisbet wrote:I didn't realise that there was a startup lag - reminds me of my brother's digital camera (no idea what make) which missed every opportunity because it took seconds to warm up! All digital cameras have this lag as they are essentially computers that capture images and need to boot up. The boot up time now is probably less than the time it takes to raise the camera to your eye to take the photo.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 11:23 |
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chrisbet wrote:Intrigued by iain's comment re the 780 I had a browse in Ken Rockwell's website - Ken Rockwell has some very firm opinions, which he is entitled to, and makes some apparently categorical statements that are sometimes just wrong. As an example he states in his D4 review that "the replaceable clock battery is new" he is in fact completely wrong as it was introduced with the D2H. In the same review he criticises the XQD card because "Lexar and SanDisk don't make them", no Sony make them and they are hardly a small player in the market. I take most of what he says with a pinch of salt.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 12:50 |
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Ken Rockwell is (in)famous for his reviews which are apparently frequently just copied opinions from other reviewers. I tend to take his review comments with a huge pinch of salt! I always believe that it is best to try for yourself as frequently one man's delight, is another man's poison. Much discussion in the Fuji forums regarding the adoption by Fuji of the fully articulating LCD back screen on the XT4 (like on most Canon cameras), which I prefer, over the two way articulation adopted previously by Fuji and Nikon.
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