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Posted: Sun Dec 22nd, 2019 05:49
 
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I think that most times people do things because they can - not because it is needed.

Videoing with a DSLR camera is about as sensible as taking stills with a video camera!

Phones are a special case, most of us carry a phone anyway, so having a camera / video inbuilt means we can capture ad hoc moments and we don't need high quality for sharing on the web, just the connectivity that the phone provides.



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chrisbet wrote:
I think that most times people do things because they can - not because it is needed.

Videoing with a DSLR camera is about as sensible as taking stills with a video camera!

Phones are a special case, most of us carry a phone anyway, so having a camera / video inbuilt means we can capture ad hoc moments and we don't need high quality for sharing on the web, just the connectivity that the phone provides.

Yes I think that is the case.

I have been thinking more about the original post and what keeps springing to mind is ........ Z50.... why?

Everything about the camera seems like it is ill considered!



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Probably just built down to a price to fit into what Nikon marketeers see as an opportunity. There are people who just have to have the "latest" gizmo and don't want the complexity of an advanced camera, just something to take to parties and show off.....



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chrisbet wrote:
I think that most times people do things because they can - not because it is needed.

Videoing with a DSLR camera is about as sensible as taking stills with a video camera!

Phones are a special case, most of us carry a phone anyway, so having a camera / video inbuilt means we can capture ad hoc moments and we don't need high quality for sharing on the web, just the connectivity that the phone provides.

And yet there are significant numbers of people making films for TV broadcast using DSLRs. It amuses me how their DSLRs are surrounded by a plethora of add ons that make them more like Christmas trees....but they do it in preference to dedicated movie cameras.  Maybe its unit cost? They cannot be as convenient to handle? With all the addons they are probably just as bulky as a conventional video camera. Don't understand their advantage.



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jk wrote:
Yes I think that is the case.

I have been thinking more about the original post and what keeps springing to mind is ........ Z50.... why?

Everything about the camera seems like it is ill considered!

Oh I think there is a point, Nikon don't want to be left out when the entry level DSLR becomes a historical artefact. The Z50 is simply an entry level camera for the Z series. As I have said before, it might be a good replacement for a 1J5 but I am in no hurry.

 




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Sorry to drag up a dormant thread... but I saw it and thought it worth replying. 

I definitely bought my Z6 directly with  its video capability in mind, as well as a stills replacement for my D600. Personally I love the quality of the video you get from the Z6 and have found it a joy to work with. Eric mentioned unit cost and that is it for me, the Z6 gives me a really nice balance of a capable still camera and capable video camera - using a cage on it I can indeed make it look like a christmas tree but the results I've gotten from it are excellent - especially after moving to the S series primes. 

The latest updates on firmware are good in my opinion, Pro Res RAW is cool and the price seems fair but you'd need an external recorder such as the ATOMOS Ninja V ( £700-800) just to use it too. Personally although I might go down that route in the future, currently shooting in 4K is giving me a pretty good result out of the camera so I'll stick with that for now. 

But I guess my use case isn't standard. I've shot probably 20 or so hours of video since getting it and have taken 6000-7000 photos since getting it in August so I think I'm getting quite a balanced use out of it. If anyone's curious I'm using it for a new tech reviewing channel I've started on YouTube - Hamer Reviews.

Interestingly I've seen more and more tourists wandering around London with Z50's so there's clearly some appeal somewhere.

 




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Interesting to hear your feedback Chris.
I really like my Z7 but I dont do any video.



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jk wrote:
Interesting to hear your feedback Chris.
I really like my Z7 but I dont do any video.

Yep they are great cameras, especially once you've tweaked the menus to make it a bit better - I feel my D600 needed much less work to get it to work well!

Fair play on the Z7 - to be honest the Z6 is more capable on video due to differences in downsampling to 4K from 24mpx vs 40 odd. Mind you I really want one for the enhanced stills capability.

 




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What`s Wrong with that Avatar...changed it some time ago and now it`s changed back...yet my profile shows the new avatar ???????



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Maybe a bit late replying (for some reason I missed this post) you may need to flush your cache.

The two avatars seem the same from here.  If it's still wrong try PMing Chris.



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