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| Posted: Sun Dec 15th, 2019 15:38 |
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jk
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In my earlier post I forgot to say that if the camera is lighter and the sensor is smaller then I would expect the lenses to get smaller and lighter.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15th, 2019 16:50 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:In my earlier post I forgot to say that if the camera is lighter and the sensor is smaller then I would expect the lenses to get smaller and lighter. Well that's true I suppose. The FP fresnel lenses are a case in point. That said, the 500mm FP is still more comfortable to handhold with the D850 grip than the D500....unless the D500 has the extra battery grip attached. The fundamental problem (for me at least) is that I only have 3 fingers available to hold ANY camera ...as the index finger is occupied on the shutter. If the 'pinky' slips off the grip, I am gripping with only 2 fingers. I appreciate it can go underneath and support the camera vertical weight but it's the grip that better counters the turning moment from a heavyish cantilevered lens. It's also quite interesting (maybe years of holding cameras) that holding ANYTHING with just the 2nd, 3rd and 4th fingers is a lot more secure than the 1st, 2nd and 3rd fingers. My pinky is an integral part of gripping.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 16th, 2019 16:01 |
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GeoffR
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I agree with that Eric, I don't like having a finger under the camera, I want it on the grip. Make the camera smaller and I will be looking to add a grip. A pointless exercise in my opinion. It has to be said that DX should indeed allow smaller lenses for the same field of view but Nikon never made a 70-200 f2.8 DX and the 17-55 f2.8 DX is not much smaller, 1cm shorter and 170g lighter, than the 24-70 f2.8. OK 170g is worth having but the absence of a DX equivalent to the 14-24 f2.8 and the aforementioned 70-200, rather negates the benefits. Also the D2X is little, if any, smaller than the D4 and the D500, with grip, is pretty much the same size. Sorry but if I have to carry FX lenses to get the aperture I want and the camera body is no smaller I might just as well have an FX sensor.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 16th, 2019 16:07 |
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jk
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I agree that too small a camera actually doesnt work for me either. My Nikon V1 is just such a camera but my Canon G12 is fine as is my Fuji XT3, my D3S is great but heavy, my Z7 is great and not at all heavy. 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 03:57 |
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GeoffR
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jk wrote:I agree that too small a camera actually doesn't work for me either. Given that I said the D3 was the right size for me I can be sure that the Z6/7 would be too small for comfort. A grip on a Z6 would probably make it the right size but Nikon made a complete mess of the grip. I want a camera with a second set of controls, just like the D3, but around the same size and half the weight. I see absolutely no reason why Nikon couldn't produce a Z series camera that does that, even if it does need an optional grip, but it appears the Z6/7 isn't that camera. Given Nikon's normal approach is to put capabilities into camera bodies that won't be required for several years the designers of the Z series have dropped that particular ball.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 12:11 |
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jk
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As you say Geoff, Nikon have made a mess of their battery grips. This is especially the case with the Z7/6 which has a grip that adds two extra batteries at the expense of the internal battery. Also no vertical shutter release or other features. Dooh! I will wait to see what Meike produce. They make good products with more functionality than the Nikon/Fuji equivalent but for half the price.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 15:35 |
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Eric
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jk wrote: I will wait to see what Meike produce. They make good products with more functionality than the Nikon/Fuji equivalent but for half the price. If I were getting a Z camera I would be tempted to give this extension a go...recommended by Chris Hamer..... https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/264404168967?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=264404168967&targetid=595627732953&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9050373&poi=&campaignid=1701291834&mkgroupid=68042092202&rlsatarget=pla-595627732953&abcId=1140496&merchantid=138804939&gclid=CjwKCAjwtajrBRBVEiwA8w2Q8F-3BVl80Y-pVFTvpO5xXMN9VIlLJ1Rq7r8uFJga55AXkr-Ju_rySBoCCR0QAvD_BwE
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 15:39 |
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jk
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I want something more like this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meike-MK-XT3-Pro-Battery-Grip-2-4G-Wireless-Remote-for-Fujifilm-Fuji-X-T3-Camera/254396769427?hash=item3b3b3aa493:g:pCwAAOSwAUJdQsGq
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 15:43 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I want something more like this. I suppose if you need extra battery capacity/functionality 'on tap'...it's what's required. Personally I want to retain/maximise lightweight and just add more grip space. It's easy enough to pop in a replacement battery from your pocket, with this type of open frame bracket.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18th, 2019 03:17 |
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jk
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I have one of these on my Z7. It makes for easy attachment to the tripod, adds almost no weight and protects the base and side of the camera. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEIPRO-Handle-L-Shaped-Bracket-Quick-Release-Grip-Plate-for-Nikon-Z6-Z7-Camera/133153060685?hash=item1f008a774d:g:O6QAAOSwTtJdZUhd
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