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| Posted: Fri Jul 5th, 2019 03:40 |
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jk
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Interesting comments that I tend to agree with in the case of the Fstoppers article. I find the results from my Z7 to be outstanding and the images look great large but then again so do images from my D850 and D800. What we need is a camera with a sensor with greater dynamic range so that we can take photographs that reproduce what we see without needing to manipulate the image via HDR techniques to achieve this. This is where the first article on the dynamic range of different cameras sensors comes into play. I am pleased that my Z7 and D850 produce as good dynamic range (~11.6), and the Fuji XT3 is (~10.35). Compared to the Fuji GFX50 medium format is only ~(11.6) and not as high as the new Fuji GFX100 (~12.3) but staying on the FX format camera is giving me best of both. Ultimately it is a personal choice of capability versus ultimate specification. I am very happy with my cameras and lenses and yes occasionally I upgrade but I am now satisfied with their general specification, I now want lighter lenses and better dynamic range sensors but I have been saying that for a while.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 05:01 |
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GeoffR
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novicius wrote:A Digital F...would be Exactly that...Looking like an F being Digital , as in All that ,say ,a D6 could do..WiFi and Geotagging are of Importance to Many incl. me, and I`m a Retiree , many ,if not Most pro`s require that by now, witness the fact that the stuff is for sale ,and as mentioned for a Hefty sum, while it costs practically next to nothing in manufacture, and since when does Nikon listen to anyone ???..several reviewers have complained about exactly the opposite.. OK, that makes some sense but it is worth considering that Nikon stopped producing interchangeable finders after the F5. The F6 and later D series cameras didn't have one. There were four finders for the F5, the standard one, a waist level finder, a magnified waist level finder and a sports finder. The waist level finders become redundant with the Z series because the articulated screen does the job. As far as I know the only interchangeable digital back for an SLR was the Leica Digital Modul R which wasn't a particular success, backs for MF digitals seem to work well enough but I am not sure the bulk would be acceptable for an SLR. The Photomic head was an after thought to allow metering with a body that didn't have it built in, it is redundant today with metering cells in the bottom of the mirror box and beside the eyepiece. If you had interchangeable finders in the same was as the F5 you would still have the mirrorbox sensor. I don't see what a Photomic head would achieve. You don't mention it but I assume you want Auto Focus and full compatibility with lenses from Pre-AI to the very latest. I think that might be challenging as you would need a means to adjust the aperture on G series and later lenses without aperture rings, a means of coupling rabbit ears on Pre-AI lenses and some means of inhibiting Shutter priority with anything before AI-S. A mechanically complex design. I have already explained that adding Wi-Fi and GPS, while it may be relatively cheap, isn't necessarily in the photographer's best interest. My WT2a isn't compatible with my wife's 2009 MacBook Pro because the security protocols have changed since the WT2 was introduced. A camera with built in Wi-Fi would no longer be able to connect but might still drain the battery. Likewise since 2005 Wi-Fi has moved to include the 5GHz band and the WT2 can't go there either. A demand for more space on the 2.5GHz band could see that shifted from Wi-Fi making any camera with only 2.5GHz Wi-Fi unable to connect. It limits the life of the camera. Which is why I am prepared to forego Wi-Fi in a camera. Yes I still occasionally use the D2X and D2Xs and they work as well today as they did in 2006. GPS has undergone some changes too, WAAS, and LAAS, being just two of them. Navigational GPS systems also have to be SA aware and/or SA immune but but you can't add those functions/capabilities to a system built into a camera. For me the GPS adaptors sold on-line are a much better solution as they can be replaced when technology moves on, they are also GOLNASS and Galileo compatible. I am sure Nikon could build a Digital F but they would have to be sure of making a profit. Given that such a camera would be mechanically complex (expensive) and, to some extent, niche market I really don't see them doing so. I like the idea but I couldn't afford to buy one.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 05:07 |
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GeoffR
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I think many long term Nikon users are frustrated by modern Nikon cameras. I blame Nikon for sticking so rigidly to the F mount, sure the bayonet itself remains unchanged but pretty much everything around it has moved on. With hindsight it would have been better to do what Canon did and change the lens mount in 1988 when AF became popular. That way there wouldn't be the compatibility problems that provoke so much discussion. Today's Nikon F mount is a very different beast from 1959's F mount but still long term users want to mount their 60 year-old lenses on 2019 bodies.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 05:41 |
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jk
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GeoffR wrote:I think many long term Nikon users are frustrated by modern Nikon cameras. I blame Nikon for sticking so rigidly to the F mount, sure the bayonet itself remains unchanged but pretty much everything around it has moved on. With hindsight it would have been better to do what Canon did and change the lens mount in 1988 when AF became popular. That way there wouldn't be the compatibility problems that provoke so much discussion. I think there is a very large amount of truth in this. However we as mature or long term users of the brand also need to be aware that we need to look forward and embrace change. There will be many new changes coming in the next 5 years so that most mechanical parts on cameras will be removed. For example the mechanical shutter will be retired as the global shutter (electronic on/off switching of the sensor and saving to memory card) takes over and becomes cheaper to implement into cameras.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 10:02 |
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GeoffR
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jk wrote:I think there is a very large amount of truth in this. However we as mature or long term users of the brand also need to be aware that we need to look forward and embrace change. I have no doubt that in a very few years the only home for a pre-AF-S lens will be on a 2019 or earlier Nikon. Although a Pre-AI lens can be used on some fairly recent bodies I get the impression that Nikon would rather one didn't do it.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 12:30 |
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novicius
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Interesting comments indeed, the Digital F should have been like the FUJI GFX 100, now that`s the Camera Nikon should have made ,a slightly bigger sensor with a lot more pixels yet still of reasonable size `tho it would have to have an Slr screen and Interchangeable finders. The F was mentioned as a D6 caliber camera, and the Photomic would be like the Canon booster made for the Ft camera, improving the range considerably, such like the Lunasix F. That EVF is still No match for an Slr`s screen...and although I have a DR-3 ( Anglefinder ) I still would like the waist level finder...something the FUJI-Hasselblad Still offers,...assuming that I do n`t need this and do n`t need that , will / does make me turn my back and look elsewhere.. All the Electronic Compatibility issues can and are by many makes fixed thru` software. Ofcourse Nikon does Not want `ye olde Nikkors to be mounted any longer, they want to sell lenses, understandably enough as Nikon is a maker of Lenses. Point is , even I , a reasonably loyal Nikoneer have started to " flirt " with other makes....with marriage to follow perhaps.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 17:02 |
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GeoffR
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novicius wrote:
Yes indeed but the mechanical compatibility issues, of which there are many, can't be fixed in software and it is the mechanical rather than the electronic issues that would make a Digital F unaffordable.
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