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Posted: Wed May 29th, 2019 13:41
 
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Latest rumours are that there will be some new Nikons late this year or early 2020.


Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/2019/05/28/nikon-z3-z5-and-z9-mirrorless-camera-rumors.aspx/#ixzz5pLAIHa2W



Low-end Nikon D5700 DSLR or similar is still a possibility
High-end Pro Z series camera (Z9?) with dual card slots - the development could be announced as early as this summer
Nikon Z5 in 2019: 30-32 MP APS-C sensor, similar body to the Z6, dual card slot (XQD and micro SD)
Nikon Z3 in 2020: entry-level DX camera with fix LCD screen, 24 or 26 MP sensor, one micro SD card slot only, probably no EVF
At least two DX Z lenses at launch, probably a standard zoom lens and a tele-zoom or a standard zoom + a prime, more DX lenses to come in 2020
The next Z firmware update will come either early summer or autumn, that will bring CFexpress support and RAW recording
Nikon D6 will not be a hybrid camera




Interesting item to me is the move to having......

  • Dual card slots.
  • All Z mount instead of F.  It seems F is now dead or dying!
  • Z5 = 30MP option added, as well as Z3 = 24MP, and Z9 = ??MP but I guess 45MP.

I think that a Z3 without an EVF is a disappointment.



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There seem to be a lot of complaining online from G7 users. Seems that the eye focus is zeroing in on the eyelashes instead of the eyeball.
This creates a lot of failed shots. :lol:



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Posted: Fri May 31st, 2019 00:22
 
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amazing50 wrote:
Seems that the eye focus is zeroing in on the eyelashes instead of the eyeball. :lol:

I can see this would be a problem... :devil:



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I will stay with the F-mount camera`s and the specialized lenses that I have, then will go further with HUAWEi/leica and Motorola/Hasselblad...Tired of Nikon `s lack of incorporating Wi-Fi..GPS ...and Inability of making an F digital...

I thought that the Df was a step in the right direction...turned out to be a one note song..

May even look into a 2nd hand FUJI / Hasselblad..



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novicius wrote: I will stay with the F-mount camera`s and the specialized lenses that I have, then will go further with HUAWEi/leica and Motorola/Hasselblad...Tired of Nikon `s lack of incorporating Wi-Fi..GPS ...and Inability of making an F digital...

That is your prerogative of course.
Being pedantic, it isn't an inability to make a digital F, it is unwillingness to do so. Nikon are perfectly capable of doing so but for some reason don't see the need.

Which Nikon F features do you want in a digital version? It is a mechanical camera, without a meter in its initial iteration. You can't have a purely mechanical digital camera because you have to link functions between the mechanical side and the electronic. I am not sure you could make a digital camera without a meter, if only because it would be on the sensor. The F was pre-AI, but I doubt anyone would buy a digital camera without AF. My opinion is that a digital F would be a huge disappointment simply because it would be a compromise and that probably wouldn't please anybody. Much like the Df in fact.

Wi-Fi and GPS, well yes they can be incorporated but how much use would they get? Wi-Fi first, I have a camera with Wi-Fi a 1J5, I have only used the Wi-Fi to see what it does (noting for me) and I also have a WT2a for the D2X I haven't used it much either, it requires too much additional equipment. There is a place for Wi-Fi and Nikon cater for that with the Wireless Transmitters for high-end cameras, yes they are over-priced. With Wi-Fi you need something to connect to, either a device or a network, out in the wilds there aren't many networks and who wants to carry another device? I suppose if you want to post images to social media it may have its uses but I wouldn't post an unedited image anyway.

GPS is always going to be a problem because inbuilt GPS will sleep when the camera sleeps but take much longer to establish a position on waking up than will be necessary for the camera to be ready. Thus the ideal is an always-on GPS and that might as well be a stand-alone device with its own batteries. Nikon seem to understand this.

Of course if you incorporate these technologies you also limit the camera's life. When the Wi-Fi and/or security protocols change you are stuck (The WT2a doesn't support WPA2 for example). Keeping the transmitter separate allows upgrading that can never be incorporated into a camera. GPS is similar, though the average user has no idea what gets done, and if you produce a camera with GPS how long will it be before users want GLONASS or Galileo as well?

novicius wrote: I thought that the Df was a step in the right direction...turned out to be a one note song..
You weren't alone but the more pragmatic could see the joins and told Nikon “You can do better”. The response seems to have been the D5 and the Z series, the Df is still available new so Nikon haven't given up on it entirely but personally I would rather have a D4 which is more suited to my hands, the Df is not tall enough for comfort. You might like to read Thom Hogans review.http://www.dslrbodies.com/cameras/current-nikon-dslr-reviews/nikon-df-review.html

Having said all that good luck with what ever you decide to do.

 




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I use wi-fi all the time when I am away from home to download images from the camera to the phone so I can upload them to the internet - either to my home server or to a media site like here!

Wi-fi is easy to add to any camera that takes SD cards - Toshiba flashair SDs come with built in wi-fi, all you need to do it join the flashair network from your phone and download whichever images you want.

What would be cool is to be able to upload gps coordinates from the phone to the flashair sd card, since the phone is on all the time there would be no delay getting a fix.



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A Digital F...would be Exactly that...Looking like an F being Digital , as in All that ,say ,a D6 could do..WiFi and Geotagging are of Importance to Many incl. me, and I`m a Retiree , many ,if not Most pro`s require that by now, witness the fact that the stuff is for sale ,and as mentioned for a Hefty sum, while it costs practically next to nothing in manufacture, and since when does Nikon listen to anyone ???..several reviewers have complained about exactly the opposite..

About that digital F....imagine the camera as is ,incl. it`s Low weight but specked with eletronics incl. metering / autofocus and everything, interchangeable finders with a photomic having a metering range of Lunasix F class...interchangeable backs with sensors of different characteristics , something that Leica does with different camera´s and is being rather successfull with it ..from the get go the F is designed as a System - Camera , making it probably the most succesfull as over a million were produced, unrivalled by any.....a Digital version could reach an even Higher success rate....by using all nikkor retro focus lenses ever made, as Lens continuity has been part of the driving force behind Nikon`s success....somewhat flopped by the introduction of the G-lenses,..I have some, and I can use my TC converters on those with Full lens opening Only !!



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I loved my FM and I would like the Df  - if I could afford it! I don't see why it isn't possible to produce a camera as novicius suggests but Nikon seem to have sunk their future in the Z series not retro.

I suppose it is a bit like the Mini - the original concept was brilliant but the overblown modern versions have lost that simple clean approach and dumbed down the user interface. :thumbsdown:



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Yes the FM and FE cameras were brilliant cameras.  I had one of each.  Never missed a beat.

I like the Df concept but I find it less appealing with the extra knobs and dials.  I am sure it could be like the F301/501 cameras.



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Yes, I am somewhat frustrated with that \" funny \" Z mount... what is it for ?...for the same sensor size..?!..

Why not go for Bigger then, after all , Nikon is making a line of lenses for it , which are Incompatible with the F-mount, sure, there`s an adapter to couple F Lenses to that Zorro outfit, but Not the other way around..there`s a 24-70 F zoom,and now there`s a 24-70 Z zoom,...what ?..the F zoom can be mounted by means of the Adapter,... that indicates that they`re duplicating the F lenses ..it is Clear to me that Nikon is Sorely Lacking in Competent leadership,..this coming from a person who´s been a Nikoneer for over Four decades, I have pre-Ai lenses ( vintage now ) that were spankin` brand new when I bought them, ....and when the 1 series came out I could see the idea of coming out with a mini camera/lens line , a small..lightweight system ..that delivered Quality close to the Real thing..there`s a site where among other things Photographic Dynamic Range of many makes can be compared , there can be seen how f.ex. the 1 V2 compares to the D1....:

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

As for that Df, it is its Compatibility I was Referring to, but with a skimpy battery and a flimsy batterydoor that , according to several reports broke easily, indicating it was built half-heartedly,..after all , a Nikon is Not supposed to break,...\" Nikon brings the picture home \" , I do remember that slogan..and my Nikon`s always have.

So why a Bigger diameter flange for the same sensor size, as can be easily seen, the F-flange can cope with f 0.95 speeds....but perhaps Nikon has an f 0.5 lens in the making ?...now that would be nice, yet it seems to me that the whole Z thing is a hap-haZard adventure..

If , Nikon has some new mirrorless camera technology up their sleeve, then why not with the F-mount ?...

The comment that is expressing concerns about incorporating wi-fi and geo tagging , does not take into consideration that such technology has been unaltered , ...the problem is with the expensive add-ons that were made to be compatible with a particular model only, yes, new standards have been introduced , But without making the old standards obsolete....the GPS I bought Ten years ago gets updated every year for a modest fee...my phone updates for free...even my METZ flashes can be updated ...for Free , ....all of those things can be done without resorting to a New flange.

There are those that can shed light on this better than I can , f.ex. :

https://fstoppers.com/originals/future-bleak-why-nikon-and-canons-new-mirrorless-lenses-are-wrong-direction-328471



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