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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 07:03 |
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: OK I take your point on the 810a. But does that mean it's useless for sport, portraits, landscape? Surely not? If it is, it must be the first 'one function' camera on the market. Even the Fuji UV/IR forensic specialist camera took normal snaps as well. They may try to attract a group of people with their target advertising but they don't use one word ...ONLY....for very good reason. These tools are versatile and cross over different photographic genre with great success. I don't believe one camera can be a liability in use. It may not be optimal but in the absence of a specialist device it should perform. If you are someone who embraces many fields of photographic activity, you aren't going to buy one body for each! ( well maybe Jonathan would 😆) Most people would buy one body that fitted their budget, secure in the knowledge it would satisfy very well, all their needs whatever's they were going to photograph....even if it meant a little compromise. If someone couldn't afford long lenses but needed telephoto reach, they might be swayed to go DX. But as Graham is proving, using the D850 and cropping is better than a D500. So on balance, the high resolution 'product, studio camera' crosses into wildlife and probably sports use quite well. You currently don't NEED DSLR bodies dedicated to specific uses...well at least terrestrial uses. 😆 However, I think the difference between mirrorless and conventional bodies is that they introduce NEW functionality stumbling blocks that dont exist between say D5, D850, D500. It's these shortcomings that more than anything we have seen on DSLR bodies, suggest these cameras may not be as versatile....yet. Although I am sure that if you asked Nikon where they see the Z7 cameras being used they would say 'everywhere' ....because they want to sell loads. 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 08:29 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:OK I take your point on the 810a. But does that mean it's useless for sport, portraits, landscape? Surely not? If it is, it must be the first 'one function' camera on the market. It specifically states "Not recommended for general photography" Screenshot below. I am unable to find any new examples of the D810a for sale so either it was a very limited production run or they sold well... I accept The D810a is an extreme example but most, especially the more expensive cameras do have recommended spheres of use, maybe not completely exclusive but tendency towards one aspect or another of photography, either by sensor size, resolution, features, robustness or weight/size.
Well I have the D3, for general photography the D300S for very occasion birding and longer stuff and a second body when I need one for motorsport. The D300S is still tied up on Time-Lapse duty since 2nd September, with one exposure every 10 minutes. It could be there 'til Christmas! (By which time it's shutter count will be off the clock!) I am sure many enthusiasts have multiple cameras, each according to their interests. I regret parting with my D200's, but perhaps not the D1's Nobody seems to be considering or mentioning the Z6, which could well be superior at high and low ISO and have a better dynamic range, not to mention drastically cheaper than the Z7. Attachment: Screen Shot 2018-10-20 at 14.02.26.jpg (Downloaded 40 times)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 08:30 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:OK I take your point on the 810a. But does that mean it's useless for sport, portraits, landscape? Surely not? If it is, it must be the first 'one function' camera on the market. It specifically states "Not recommended for general photography" Screenshot below. I am unable to find any new examples of the D810a for sale so either it was a very limited production run or they sold well... I accept The D810a is an extreme example but most, especially the more expensive cameras do have recommended spheres of use, maybe not completely exclusive but tendency towards one aspect or another of photography, either by sensor size, resolution, features, robustness or weight/size. If you are someone who embraces many fields of photographic activity, you aren't going to buy one body for each! ( well maybe Jonathan would 😆) Well I have the D3 for general photography and the D300S for very occasion birding and longer stuff and a second body when I need one for motorsport. The D300S is still tied up on Time-Lapse duty since 2nd September, with one exposure every 10 minutes. It could be there 'til Christmas! (By which time it's shutter count will be off the clock!) I am sure many enthusiasts have multiple cameras, each according to their interests. I regret parting with my D200's, but perhaps not the D1's Nobody seems to be considering or mentioning the Z6, which could well be superior at high and low ISO and have a better dynamic range, not to mention drastically cheaper than the Z7. Back to the D810a for a moment, looking closely at the screenshot below I was surprised to see that it appears to have inbuilt exposure times of up to 900 seconds? Am I right, that's 60 hours??? Surely not? Attachment: Screen Shot 2018-10-20 at 14.02.26.jpg (Downloaded 38 times)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 08:43 |
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Eric
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How do you get 60hours? I'm not mentioning the Z6 because it hasn't been released on saie over here yet. But it could make a perfect general photography camera for me fulfilling the key features of (slightly) lighter weight, a sensible pixel count, and as you say, a more modest price.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 09:05 |
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jk
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Spent the afternoon testing my Godox flash units with the Z7. Notionally I should use the Nikon wireless trigger for the flash to work but the Canon and Fuji versions also work and remotely control the flashes (AD600 and AD360) output. Everything worked flawlessly exactly as if I had my Fujis plugged into the trigger. I still need to check the HSS (High Speed Sync) or FP in Nikon parlance. This provides fill-in flash in sunny conditions so you can balance the ambient and fill in flash effectvely with shutter speeds in excess of the camera flash sync speed (1/200). NOTE....... I do NOT use TTL flash except if I am shooting with hot shoe mounted flash. The Nikon SB800 is meant to and does work with the Z7 in TTL mode. 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 09:41 |
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Eric
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Maybe that's the problem. I don't consider myself an enthusiast....I just take photos. In fairness I do have a dedicated IR camera. But my D3 was used for everything else (professional and leisure) without me feeling I needed another more specific body. Lenses ..yes! Specific to the subject....interiors, product shots, macro, portraits, scenery, events, sports and wildlife ....but all attached to the same body.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 10:11 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:How do you get 60hours? I don't know? with the calculator divided the 900 seconds by sixty because there are sixty seconds in a minute???... Ah! Perhaps it's sixty minutes - one hour. I'm tired. It's still an ambitious exposure time for digital. Might result in a few hot pixels. I'm not mentioning the Z6 because it hasn't been released on saie over here yet. But it could make a perfect general photography camera for me fulfilling the key features of (slightly) lighter weight, a sensible pixel count, and as you say, a more modest price. I don't think it's public released anywhere yet. Probably wanted to wet the appetites of the enthusiasts first...
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 11:32 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote:
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 12:05 |
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jk
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900 seconds = 15mins in my world! 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2018 12:19 |
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I am wondering if havng the Z7 excludes the Z6 as you can change to DX to get 24MP approx. The DX feature on the Z6 will yield approx 12MP. Not so shabby but why have two slightly different cameras. Time will tell. The Z6 is better for video.
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