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Posted: Sat Jul 28th, 2018 15:23
 
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novicius wrote:
And so....

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/mirrorless-is-coming.page?cid=img_en_us:EML:MKT:7262018:ML-DA:2018-27-07-CD-US:na:img:joinexcitement&ET_CID=2216249&ET_RID=335265860&SC_ID=0032400001InjVkAAJ

Can we hold our breath...


Please dont as I dont think that 26 days breath holding is good also what happens if it gets delayed!
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Sorry but I think that there is a lot of hype on this subject.

Of course there is, if Nikon and all the supply chain don't make money, they go out of business.

We have a stack of companies going bust because they try to sell cheap stuff cheap, or compete with impossible odds.

Nikon have to make money, lot's of it. If a little hype helps, so be it.



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What I was actually meaning was does this mean that your (and my) 105-f/2.5 AI Nikkors will work with the new mirrorless camera if they are chipped, because the inference seems to be that they might.

But if they are un-chipped, they probably won't.



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Yes they will work as long as the adapter used corrects the two different distances between rear node to sensor, which it will if it is properly designed.
If it is chipped then it will read info from the lens otherwise you will get f0, 0mm unless there is also a menu selction system like on current DSLRs with MF lenses.
AF is the bug bear as screwdriver focus lenses wont work except my MF but AFS should but it might be design to work with new P lenses so then we need to know the compromise!

Got my name down with Fixation to have one of the new cameras. Need to get specs confirmed.



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Don't think the F mount adaptors will be available from the get go.

One of the big unknowns is how it will deal with the AI indexing, will there be a motor in the adaptor...

The camera specific, 'Z' mount lenses will likely be magnetic diaphragm, sort of linear motor, therefor electronic.

Many of the likely adopters of this new camera will have manual F mount lenses and keen to use them to their full potential on the new camera.



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Really doesn't matter to me what lenses are usable.... unless the Nikon mirrorless has stopped last frame viewfinder freeze, it will be of no use for action photography.



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I would be surprised if there is any silliness like that. Time will tell.



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Robert wrote:
Don't think the F mount adaptors will be available from the get go.

One of the big unknowns is how it will deal with the AI indexing, will there be a motor in the adaptor...

The camera specific, 'Z' mount lenses will likely be magnetic diaphragm, sort of linear motor, therefor electronic.

Many of the likely adopters of this new camera will have manual F mount lenses and keen to use them to their full potential on the new camera.


With mirrorless you dont need to focus at full aperture especially when you manual focus as the EVF can light magnify to provide equivalent EVF brightness. There are many differences in mirrorless whose operation is so different to a DSLR. The physical differences are obvious but the real advantages are the ability to pre-visualise the exposure so you can under/over expose to get your desired result.
The fly-by-wire aperture, focus for AF, etc, give us huge opportunities but of course some frustrations with dirty contacts and battery life.
There are always advantages and disadvantages.



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Really doesn't matter to me what lenses are usable.... unless the Nikon mirrorless has stopped last frame viewfinder freeze, it will be of no use for action photography.

I agree that frame-freeze or poor refresh is a real bugbear. I dont find this a problem with the XT2 but did with previous Fuji EVFs in XT1, XE2, XE1 and especially XPro1.
This effect also exists in DSLRs with mirror blackout effect.

I think this problem is worse with different photography types so worse in sports and wildlife photography but of no problem for landscape, astrophotography. Things like macro is also a huge differenceas you get more opportunities but there are fewer accessories so it is a real balance.



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Eric wrote:
Really doesn't matter to me what lenses are usable.... unless the Nikon mirrorless has stopped last frame viewfinder freeze, it will be of no use for action photography.

I agree that frame-freeze or poor refresh is a real bugbear. I dont find this a problem with the XT2 but did with previous Fuji EVFs in XT1, XE2, XE1 and especially XPro1.
This effect also exists in DSLRs with mirror blackout effect.

I think this problem is worse with different photography types so worse in sports and wildlife photography but of no problem for landscape, astrophotography. Things like macro is also a huge differenceas you get more opportunities but there are fewer accessories so it is a real balance.


I agree mirror blackout occurs in DSLRs, but the time out is significantly less than even the XT2.

I would love to see a Nikon mirrorless that solved the key disadvantages of other mirrorless bodies and it would encourage me to buy it...because there are several great advantages, like those you mention, to mirrorless.

A full frame camera with current AFS and P lens compatibility, albeit through an adapter, would be a tempting addition....leaving the DSLR bodies for wildlife.

I could live with that.

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