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Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 11:02
 
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I think that Nikon might have missed the boat as the people that I know up here using Nikon and wanting mirrorless have already changed to another system.

 




Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 17:50
 
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Iain wrote:
I think that Nikon might have missed the boat as the people that I know up here using Nikon and wanting mirrorless have already changed to another system.

That may be true but all current mirrorless have the limitations we discussed. So if Nikon can solve those shortcomings they may have a way back.

Personally I can't see them delivering anything different to current offerings. The industry seems to be locked into a particular direction for mirrorless which doesn't excite me.



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Well it would seem that this rumour is coming to reality.
There is meant to be an announcement in the next 2-3 weeks.

https://nikonrumors.com/2018/07/04/nikon-mirrorless-camera-specs-recap.aspx/

Rumours say there will be an FX as well as a DX or a high (47MP) and a lower 24MP camera.

Time will tell, not long to wait!



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https://nikonrumors.com/2018/07/09/additional-nikon-mirrorless-full-frame-camera-specifications-af-and-more.aspx/

Getting almost to a position where I really just want one to test against my Fujis.
Hey Nikon UK what about it?
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s not a problem!



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It is all about your settings!

Once you experiment with them so it suits what you want then everything else is past history!
It is about the AF settings!



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Eric wrote:
Iain wrote:
I think that Nikon might have missed the boat as the people that I know up here using Nikon and wanting mirrorless have already changed to another system.

That may be true but all current mirrorless have the limitations we discussed. So if Nikon can solve those shortcomings they may have a way back.

Personally I can't see them delivering anything different to current offerings. The industry seems to be locked into a particular direction for mirrorless which doesn't excite me.


I agree and think Nikon should have embraced mirrorless earlier!

What direction do you think mirrorless is going and what doesnt excite you?



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Seems to confirm that Nikon either have another mirrorless in the pipeline or are just reducing camera lines!

https://www.dpreview.com/news/3989109657/nikon-inc-confirms-the-nikon-1-is-officially-discontinued



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Thanks for the links J K ,..

Interesting interview with Tetsuru Goto , yet he`s Not saying if the camera`s will replace the Big D `s.

I could say that I am catered for , as the D3s - D3X are Everything I want and more...and yet..

A lightweight , smaller , 20 f-stop dynamic range , affordable camera could be interesting.

But why do away with the mirror ?...why not omit the mechanical shutter ?

The D1 has a hybrid Mechanical/ Electronic shutter , so now twenty years later , Nikon may have Perfected that , no more " rolling " f.ex.

Look, the old F is a small-ish camera , yet has a mirror Larger than it`s contemporaries, even a 500mm would fill the 100 prcent screen without mirror cut-off.
So the mirror box is Not what makes a camera BIG.

Video could be a factor for mirrorless , my D3S has video , with mirror-up tho`, therefore only rear monitor can be used, it`s a pain..
So for video I use my phone.

But Tetsuro Goto is saying No video on that FullFrame mirrorless.

So I`m guessing that the new camera is an Addition to the Big D line.

What are your thoughts on this ?



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novicius wrote:
Thanks for the links J K ,..

Interesting interview with Tetsuru Goto , yet he`s Not saying if the camera`s will replace the Big D `s.

I could say that I am catered for , as the D3s - D3X are Everything I want and more...and yet..

Yes my D850, D800, D600 works well for me as well.



A lightweight , smaller , 20 f-stop dynamic range , affordable camera could be interesting.

But why do away with the mirror ?...why not omit the mechanical shutter ?


The mirror mechanism is costly, heavy and increases moving parts so going mirrorless makes for cheaper cameras with higher specification.



The D1 has a hybrid Mechanical/ Electronic shutter , so now twenty years later , Nikon may have Perfected that , no more " rolling " f.ex.

Look, the old F is a small-ish camera , yet has a mirror Larger than it`s contemporaries, even a 500mm would fill the 100 prcent screen without mirror cut-off.
So the mirror box is Not what makes a camera BIG.


Yes I agree but getting rid of the mirror gives the opportunity to also remove the pentaprism. This in turn lightens the camera.
There is the need to add an Elctronic Viewfinder (EVF) then which needs to be high definition with fast refresh rate. Refresh rates of around 60-100cps gives you no flicker except under some artificial light conditions. Then there is the resolution which needs to be around 2.4MP (I think) to equate to a pentaprism display and to equate to human vision.



Video could be a factor for mirrorless , my D3S has video , with mirror-up tho', therefore only rear monitor can be used, it`s a pain..
So for video I use my phone.

But Tetsuro Goto is saying No video on that FullFrame mirrorless.

So I`m guessing that the new camera is an Addition to the Big D line.

What are your thoughts on this ?


I dont do video as I dont want to edit the video.
I also probably need some tuition.
So the new Mirrorless Nikons will satisfy me.
The big downside for me is the increased need for better or more powerful batteries.



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There is no doubt that mirrorless cameras are better, by that I mean better ergonomically, than DSLR bodies when it comes to video. The simple process of looking through the viewfinder instead of squinting at a rear screen at arms length in sunlight wins hands down.

Apart from the benefits of lighter weight the other advantage I find is wysiwg exposure compensation. It takes all the guesswork out of awkward lighting.

Of course, as I have had said ad nauseum....being lighter doesn't have to be smaller. Strangely, our hands haven't got smaller!
It also seems that the designers cannot make something smaller without breaking all the time tested requirements of comfortable feel and easy controls layout. They mask this incapacity by saying it's 'retro' look. Errr...no. It's abandoning the last 50years of body evolution...don't do it!

But the battery is the Achilles heal. Its workload has been added to immensly with the EVF. Using bigger or more batteries isn't the answer...that just adds back the weight, gained from removing the mirror and pentaprism. As does the need for a grip to house the extra batteries....albeit now more handleable ....like a DSLR!

I also have doubts that the EVF freeze, when writing files to card, will ever be sorted unless some kind of dual parallel processor/circuitry is incorporated to separate the live sensor display from saving the last image.

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