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Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2018 13:16
 
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The model numbering is still rumour... So not a lot of point in getting excited about it.

The consensus is that it leave room for 'lesser' consumer models like the D40, D60, D70, etc... using the same lens mount but simpler specification. Also it gets away from the Nikon 1, which may have it's uses but I think this product will be in a totally different league.



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Nikon1 range now discontinued. This was the V/J series of cameras.

We shall see what comes on August 23rd! ^_^



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Really don't care what they call it....if it hasn't significantly improved the EVF response, retained ergonomic feel and extended battery life, it's full frame sensor (24 or 45mp) won't be enough to woo me. But lightweight and wysiwyg exp compensation are very tempting.

I too prefer FX. But I wouldn't go back to a D5. I much prefer the feel in the hand of the D750 and now D850.

Of course I also like bird photography ...hence the D500.

So it's going to be an interesting 2 way choice for me.

1) Mirrorless for general photography and the D500 dedicated to bird/tele work?
2) D850 for everything....and hope cropping achieves same as a D500?

o.O


I am not put off by my excursion into Fuji mirrorless land...in fact I now know more clearly the strengths and weaknesses of the system. I really do hope Nikon have tackled the 3 inherent problems of mirrorless cameras. And if they have I would dip my toe in the mirrorless water again....but this time with more restraint on lens acquisition.



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Eric wrote:
I too prefer FX. But I wouldn't go back to a D5. I much prefer the feel in the hand of the D750 and now D850.
What puts you off the D5 Eric?

 




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GeoffR wrote:
Eric wrote:
I too prefer FX. But I wouldn't go back to a D5. I much prefer the feel in the hand of the D750 and now D850.
What puts you off the D5 Eric?


Too heavy and bulky for carting around on holiday. It's also unnecessarily expensive for my needs. The grips on the D750 and D850 are deeper and better suit my fingers. I used a D750 for a while and whilst the camera produced good images, it seemed to struggle when pushed in a commercial environment. I loved my D3 when I was working, but don't have the need for something that bombproof anymore

An FX mirrorless might? satisfy my FX needs. We shall see.



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Eric wrote: GeoffR wrote:
Eric wrote:
I too prefer FX. But I wouldn't go back to a D5. I much prefer the feel in the hand of the D750 and now D850.
What puts you off the D5 Eric?


Too heavy and bulky for carting around on holiday. It's also unnecessarily expensive for my needs. The grips on the D750 and D850 are deeper and better suit my fingers. I used a D750 for a while and whilst the camera produced good images, it seemed to struggle when pushed in a commercial environment. I loved my D3 when I was working, but don't have the need for something that bombproof any more
That makes sense. I buy my cameras used and well after the flaws have been corrected so I only buy when the price comes down far enough. I don't actually mind the bulk of the D3 and D4 and they fit my hands very well. I just wish Nikon hadn't made such a mess of the batteries, there is absolutely no reason why the D4 couldn't have been made to accept the EN-EL4, all Nikon needed to do was to ship it with a lower capacity battery. (Assuming the story as to why a new battery was required is true)

 




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GeoffR wrote:
Eric wrote: GeoffR wrote:
Eric wrote:
I too prefer FX. But I wouldn't go back to a D5. I much prefer the feel in the hand of the D750 and now D850.
What puts you off the D5 Eric?


Too heavy and bulky for carting around on holiday. It's also unnecessarily expensive for my needs. The grips on the D750 and D850 are deeper and better suit my fingers. I used a D750 for a while and whilst the camera produced good images, it seemed to struggle when pushed in a commercial environment. I loved my D3 when I was working, but don't have the need for something that bombproof any more
That makes sense. I buy my cameras used and well after the flaws have been corrected so I only buy when the price comes down far enough. I don't actually mind the bulk of the D3 and D4 and they fit my hands very well. I just wish Nikon hadn't made such a mess of the batteries, there is absolutely no reason why the D4 couldn't have been made to accept the EN-EL4, all Nikon needed to do was to ship it with a lower capacity battery. (Assuming the story as to why a new battery was required is true)
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Don't get me wrong, I love the feel of the D3/4/5. They fit my hand well too and better than the bare bottomed Dxxx models....which need the bottom grip to extend support for the little finger and give more balance with pro lenses. It's just that if the weight isn't necessary...it's a lot nicer!

The interesting difference with the D750 and D850 is they have the deeper grip which makes them much easier to hold without the bottom extra power grip. I bought my D750 from WEX the day it went on sale....without switching it on. Just held it in my hand for about 5mins and bought it, to the disbelief of the sales staff who wanted to tell me all about its features.
:lol:

I suppose I have always put comfort high on my priority list.
Back in the 70/80s when I was making wildlife films, the old fashioned way, I was on an Anglia TV programme about wildlife filmmaking, with an audience asking questions. ( boring as hell!) But a lady asked me what was the most important piece of equipment in a wildlife photographers kit? I replied...a cushion. ( much laughter) But all joking apart, Ive always believed you never take the best images if you are uncomfortable...the older I've got the more that's rung true. :needsahug:

So minimising the weight I carry about is key for me these days.

Incidentally Geoff....I used to live in Denham Close back in the 60s.
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More from the rumour mill....................

"Here is an actual hands-on report from somebody who actually handled the Nikon Z mirrorless cameras last week in a closed-door event in Asia:

The Nikon Z6/Z7 have many similarities to the Sony's 7 series
The new Z-mount is almost as large as medium format mount for some 6x6 SLR cameras
Handling and ergonomics are perfect
The Nikon Z6 and Nikon Z7 have exactly the same body and use the same battery
The EVF is fixed
There are no scene modes
There is a green AUTO mode as well as PSAM and 3 user settings
Both 24-70 f/4 and 50 f/1.8 lenses have a very fast AF, on the test images there were some signs of vignetting when shooting wide open."


Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/#ixzz5OQROAUwE



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jk wrote:
The new Z-mount is almost as large as medium format mount for some 6x6 SLR cameras

But the lens mount is much closer to the film (sensor) plane. So the light cone would loose it's corners on a 6x6 frame. My understanding is that at the mount dimensions it can't contain a 36mm square. The light cone would allow a larger sensor but a 6x6 sensor would cost as much as a house, or more?



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I would love a Hasselblad 500 or 2000FCW like I had with a 6x6 sensor, probably 100MP. But it would cost around £15K or more!
Makes film seem like a viable option!



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