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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 00:46
 
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There are strong rumours that Nikon will bring out an DX/FX mirrorless camera by 2019.
If the do this there is a large probability that there will be an adapter for existing lenses to work on it as well as a new range of lenses.

Will you be interested/buying?



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Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 03:41
 
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Anticipating Iain's reply, if the price is at £20.50 (inc VAT) maybe. Better put £20 in a high interest account now!

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Well I would anticipate that Iain may have the right numbers but the decimal poin is in the wrong place! £2050 maybe!
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I just checked my screen, perhaps it was a spec of dust on my screen?

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Given you have raised the mirrorless question again, what is the spec that might work, potentially 'fixing' the issues of forerunner mirrorless cameras? I have zero experience of mirrorless except for my old Nikon P3 tiny sensor camera.

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It seems the viewfinder and battery life has been the bugbear so far, obviously Nikon will be acutely aware of that, with people like Eric and many others who bravely went over to the Fuji system, returning to conventional DSLR's.

Is it horses for courses, or will Nikon produce a viable versatile camera which will satisfy the vast majority of users needs.

I have read that the Mirrorless sensor is always on, hence the short battery life, surely that's an easy fix. Just have it come on on a half press of the shutter release or some similar arrangement?

A D850, which already has an electronic, silent shutter, without the pentaprism? Or just without the mirror, have a large screen lying flat, below the pentaprism?

And then... What about the mount, F or ??? That is the 64 million dollar question.

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I would expect Nikon to reuse the battery from the V1/D800/D810/D850 to provide good power capacity for a new mirrorless.

Rumours state that the new camera will come with a Z mount and also a F to Z mount adapter.
https://nikonrumors.com/tag/nikon-z-mount/

This is reduce the need for Nikon to release a huge tranche of new lenses.
https://nikonrumors.com/2017/09/03/lets-start-talking-about-the-upcoming-nikon-mirrorless-camera.aspx/



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Robert wrote:
Given you have raised the mirrorless question again, what is the spec that might work, potentially 'fixing' the issues of forerunner mirrorless cameras? I have zero experience of mirrorless except for my old Nikon P3 tiny sensor camera.

:devil:

It seems the viewfinder and battery life has been the bugbear so far, obviously Nikon will be acutely aware of that, with people like Eric and many others who bravely went over to the Fuji system, returning to conventional DSLR's.

Is it horses for courses, or will Nikon produce a viable versatile camera which will satisfy the vast majority of users needs.

I have read that the Mirrorless sensor is always on, hence the short battery life, surely that's an easy fix. Just have it come on on a half press of the shutter release or some similar arrangement?

A D850, which already has an electronic, silent shutter, without the pentaprism? Or just without the mirror, have a large screen lying flat, below the pentaprism?

And then... What about the mount, F or ??? That is the 64 million dollar question.

o.O


For me there needs to be 3 fundamental changes...

1. Batteries that last 3x as long as current cells or electronics that don't waste power as much as mirrorless currently do. I need to have at least 500 shots per battery.
2. Solving viewfinder freeze....the image taken stays in the viewfinder till the buffer? clears. So while you are admiring the shot you just took...the subject has changed or moved away. You then have to find and acquire it again for a second shot. The only part solution I found was to shoot in AFC and machine gun the subject with an old time flicker movie effect in the viewfinder....then throw away 20 duplicate shots. This inevitable added to battery drain and reduced resultant shots/ battery.
3. Make it feel like a Nikon DSLR. Surely they can adopt the ergonomic design we know and love in a lightweight body? The D500 is not that different to the Fuji XT2 wieightwise. I do not see the need to combine retro design and mirrorless? It's taken years of effort to get away from a 'brick in the hand'. I want a mirrorless to feel like a Nikon DX body.

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I agree Eric.
1. With my XT2 I always carry two spare batteries.
2. The viewfinder freeze is not something I notice I have to say but this can be reduced by faster image reads off the sensor.
3. That is a design issue but I agree we just need to reduce the pentaprism hump. An XPro1 body without the OVF and with XT2 internals and controls would work well for me. If the AF speed was improved to D850 levels and I could use my F mount lenses then I would buy one!



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I agree Eric.
1. With my XT2 I always carry two spare batteries.
2. The viewfinder freeze is not something I notice I have to say but this can be reduced by faster image reads off the sensor.
3. That is a design issue but I agree we just need to reduce the pentaprism hump. An XPro1 body without the OVF and with XT2 internals and controls would work well for me. If the AF speed was improved to D850 levels and I could use my F mount lenses then I would buy one!


I am curious why you don't see the image freeze?

Let me try to understand....

I see a small bird in a bush. I lock focus and fire in AFS mode.

It takes the photo but the image display is frozen in the viewfinder albeit for a fraction of a second. In that moment the bird has moved out of frame ...so I have to find it again. More annoying, if I am in AFC mode as soon as the frozen image clears, the camera refocuses on the bush potentially way behind where the bird was. So I HAVE to refocus.

In situations where I take just one photo or the subject stays in shot, it doesn't matter. But specifically when the movement of the subject is erratic and unpredictable, losing line of sight, so to speak, can be a real issue.

Using Ch continuous shooting it's possible to keep the bird under the focus sensor but the viewfinder flickers away like mad....and the battery power goes doooown!

So what am I doing wrong?



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Nikon has already a mirrorless system camera of rather good quality, so will that new camera replace the Mighty Big D camera`s ?



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