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Posted: Sun Apr 1st, 2018 13:24
 
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This is for Eric.
https://www.fujix-forum.com/threads/grand-slalom.79220/

It is all about the technique.
All images shot on XT2 with 100-400.
If you got the camera set up right and you know your stuff then it is easy. It is about getting the AF settings right.



No disrespect, as the images are very good, but shooting moving objects as big as a person are one thing....2" birds are another thing. THATS what I have found challenging the Fuji. But in fairness it was with the 1.4x tc on, as well.

I had similar success in horse eventing and motor racing with Nikon and would be happy to use the Fuji kit for that. I am sure the focus tracking modes will cope with that sort of movement ..and anticipating movement is much easier when the approximate course of the subject is known in advance. Sadly, not so predictable with small birds.

I've actually purchased a D500 and added a couple of lenses, one being the new 300mm. Although a little shorter than the Fuji 400mm, the Nikon combo is 800g lighter than the Fuji combo. Which sort of blows out of the water the lightweight benefit of mirrorless.

Have still got all the Fuji gear. Will be interesting to see if I miss any of its advantages... or disadvantages.

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We all learn from each other, we have Goldfinches in garden but I have never noticed those difewrences! You must have been quite close to get that good detail, perhaps you shoulsd stick with you Fuji Camera! Happy Easter!!

Not my photos, Graham. Birds in the hand by ringer.:-)



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Well I am very happy with my D500 and 200-500 it is heavier than the Fuji XT2 and 100-400 but better for birds in flight.



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The 200-500 on a DX sensor is great for birds.



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Not my photos, Graham. Birds in the hand by ringer.
Eric thanks for that.
I too find small bird photography very hard to get focus perfect. I think the D500 is slightly better than the D850 at small moving birds, but both camreas have very good auto focus compared with all earlier Nikon DSLRs I have owned over the years.
The D500 with my big Nikon 500mm AF-S f4 lens works very well but needs to be on a good tripod with video fluid head tripod for best results. On the Kingfisher shoot with this set up in a hide for a day and taking nearly 500 pictures I had hardly any focus problems. Malcolm at same time was also using D500 but with Nikon 80-400 lens on tripod and also had very good ressults with auto focus.



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This morning Eric a male Goldfince (showing off my new gained info!!) Very poor light raining it is 30 feet away from our window. D850 with 80-400 Nikon lens at 400mm plus x1.4. Single point focus, 1/500 sec f8 3200 ISO.

Attachment: _DSC0263Goldfinch All.jpg (Downloaded 17 times)



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Here is blow up bit grainy but not bad. No winner at camera club but proves how good D850 work in very poor conditions. Yes it is male!!

Attachment: _DSC0263 Goldfinch.jpg (Downloaded 19 times)



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Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
This is for Eric.
https://www.fujix-forum.com/threads/grand-slalom.79220/

It is all about the technique.
All images shot on XT2 with 100-400.
If you got the camera set up right and you know your stuff then it is easy. It is about getting the AF settings right.





I've actually purchased a D500 and added a couple of lenses, one being the new 300mm. Although a little shorter than the Fuji 400mm, the Nikon combo is 800g lighter than the Fuji combo. Which sort of blows out of the water the lightweight benefit of mirrorless.

Have still got all the Fuji gear. Will be interesting to see if I miss any of its advantages... or disadvantages.

;-)

That lens handles the tc's well Eric.

 




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Iain wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
This is for Eric.
https://www.fujix-forum.com/threads/grand-slalom.79220/

It is all about the technique.
All images shot on XT2 with 100-400.
If you got the camera set up right and you know your stuff then it is easy. It is about getting the AF settings right.





I've actually purchased a D500 and added a couple of lenses, one being the new 300mm. Although a little shorter than the Fuji 400mm, the Nikon combo is 800g lighter than the Fuji combo. Which sort of blows out of the water the lightweight benefit of mirrorless.

Have still got all the Fuji gear. Will be interesting to see if I miss any of its advantages... or disadvantages.

;-)

That lens handles the tc's well Eric.


Agreed...got the 1.4x as well;-)

I think the point is, that for lightweight walking around, serendipity wildlife photography, DX x 300 x 1.4tc ie 630mm is acceptable with some cropping. (By the way....D500+300+1.4 weighs 1800g.....XT2+400+1.4 weighs 2600g).

But for more exacting, sitting in a hide, using a tripod moments I suspect neither will be long enough. Better to reach rather than crop.



My previous experience using a 1.4x tc with zoom lenses resulted in a noticeable quality drift. Do we know if the tc is usable on the 200-500?


One final question.... is it normal to use 500+mm for bif? Just wondered how many of these type of shots are taken with lesser reach lenses and cropped?

Have to say using Fuji + 400 + 1.4tc (ie 840mm) was cumbersome and frustratingly difficult to keep in frame. It exacerbated the issues with the mirrorless format. I ended up taking off the tc (eg =600mm) and had more success.



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In my early postings reporting on tests I did with my then new 80-400mm plus the x1.4 with the D810 and later with D500, there was no loss of sharpness or speed of focus but there is a loss of 1 stop in speed.
The x1.4 works just as well with the big 500mm f4 lens. I think most early tele extenders were very poor but Nikon have got it right with this one, no complaints.



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