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Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2018 14:42
 
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I find that the flexibility of the zoom really wins.

200-500 is cheaper as well at £1150 versus £1170 for the older 300mm f4 or £1500 for the new version.
Dont forget that the D5, D850 and D500 have a minimum max aperture of f8 NOT f5.6 as was the case in the past.


It's not about money Jonathan, it's about weight and probability of use. The D500+300+1.4 weigh 800g less than the Fujixt2+100-400+1.4!

The 200-500 weighs 2300g compared to the 300 at 700g.

I want to travel light and suspect for most of my situations, the 300 with 1.4 on the D500 will be adequate. If I discover I need more reach on some occasions I may well get the 200-500...or what about an even longer lens for static tripod use....Sigma 800?
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Eric the Cormorant was shot with Nikon D810 and my Nikon 400-80mm plus x1.4 pix blown up from 1/2 width of full frame. 1/500 sec f10 500 ISO. Tichfield Haven in our local reserve on River Meon.

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Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I find that the flexibility of the zoom really wins.

200-500 is cheaper as well at £1150 versus £1170 for the older 300mm f4 or £1500 for the new version.
Dont forget that the D5, D850 and D500 have a minimum max aperture of f8 NOT f5.6 as was the case in the past.


It's not about money Jonathan, it's about weight and probability of use. The D500+300+1.4 weigh 800g less than the Fujixt2+100-400+1.4!

The 200-500 weighs 2300g compared to the 300 at 700g.

I want to travel light and suspect for most of my situations, the 300 with 1.4 on the D500 will be adequate. If I discover I need more reach on some occasions I may well get the 200-500...or what about an even longer lens for static tripod use....Sigma 800?
;-)


Didnt realise there was such a disparity in weight. I dont find the D500+200-500 is that heavy a combo.



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Posted: Wed Apr 11th, 2018 16:39
 
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jk wrote:
Eric wrote:
jk wrote:
I find that the flexibility of the zoom really wins.

200-500 is cheaper as well at £1150 versus £1170 for the older 300mm f4 or £1500 for the new version.
Dont forget that the D5, D850 and D500 have a minimum max aperture of f8 NOT f5.6 as was the case in the past.


It's not about money Jonathan, it's about weight and probability of use. The D500+300+1.4 weigh 800g less than the Fujixt2+100-400+1.4!

The 200-500 weighs 2300g compared to the 300 at 700g.

I want to travel light and suspect for most of my situations, the 300 with 1.4 on the D500 will be adequate. If I discover I need more reach on some occasions I may well get the 200-500...or what about an even longer lens for static tripod use....Sigma 800?
;-)


Didnt realise there was such a disparity in weight. I dont find the D500+200-500 is that heavy a combo.


No it's not that heavy to use...it's just too heavy to carry around hoping to use it.;-)



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Graham Whistler wrote:
Eric the Cormorant was shot with Nikon D810 and my Nikon 400-80mm plus x1.4 pix blown up from 1/2 width of full frame. 1/500 sec f10 500 ISO. Tichfield Haven in our local reserve on River Meon.

Lovely shot. Amazed you managed to get it with the eye lid up. Every shot I took it had the waterproof cover in place....looked like 'blind bart'.:'(



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Had a good day yesterday at Blashford Lakes near Ringwood with photographer friend John. We saw plenty of small birds in the woods including this Brambling. D850 with 80-400 lens.

Attachment: _DSC0397 Brambling.jpg (Downloaded 43 times)



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Graham Whistler wrote:
Had a good day yesterday at Blashford Lakes near Ringwood with photographer friend John. We saw plenty of small birds in the woods including this Brambling. D850 with 80-400 lens.

Very nice bird.
One of our favourite winter garden visitors. Unfortunately they are never in full 'Saracen helmet' plumage like this chap. You were lucky to see one in full 'bleeding prumage' that far south. They should be up north by now!
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I reviewed yesterdays pix and felt I could inprove my settings still with the cD850 and 80-400 mm lens plus x1.4 I am posting several pixs. I have on average used 1000 ISO 1/800 sec but stopped don to F11 0r better in some so sharpness with better DOF on small birds.All single point focus CF. Most of these are only 30% of the full frame so I ask is the D850 all you need?

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Graham Whistler wrote:
I reviewed yesterdays pix and felt I could inprove my settings still with the cD850 and 80-400 mm lens plus x1.4 I am posting several pixs. I have on average used 100 ISO 1/800 sec but stopped don to F11 0r better in some so sharpness with better DOF on small birds. Most of these are only 30% of the full frame so I ask is the D850 all you need?

I've read a number of reviews that suggest it is!o.O

The bigger question for me is whether a zoom telephoto is necessary? Given that every bird shot I've ever taken has had some degree of cropping it suggests I always have to use the maximum focal length available. I've often used a tc just to try to get close enough. So why lug the dead weight of the zoom around?

For me there is balance point between portability, price and reach.

The new 300mm is incredibly light and relatively inexpensive. If the proposed 600mm is similarly light and reasonable priced it may be the ideal combo with the D850?

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Another of todays pixs

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