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Posted: Thu Sep 14th, 2017 05:44
 
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Spendthrift! And I thought you were from Yorkshire. I got a metal grip for £20 which has an Arca attachment so it fits on my tripod easily. It adds a tiny amount of weight but makes for a better grip for the camera.



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I think a lot of people who are buying mirrorless "graduate" to buying the big lenses for mirrorless are doing it so they will be able to exist with only the one body.

I think that's a mistake. The mirrorless have a really huge advantage in size and weight if you stick to a few prime lenses. If you are going to add weight, there is not real reason not to go with a top of line DSLR (thought I admit that I have used the D500 only a handful of times). If you need light, silent, pocketable, go mirrorless. if you need high quality, really fast focus or long lenses go with DSLR and tripod !

just me :-)



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I think you are right Tom.
D500 is great for me for long telephotowork but I expect to use D850 moe for everyday at 24MP and occasionally for my landscapes at 45MP but never at that resolution for portraits.



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TomOC wrote:
I think a lot of people who are buying mirrorless "graduate" to buying the big lenses for mirrorless are doing it so they will be able to exist with only the one body.

I think that's a mistake. The mirrorless have a really huge advantage in size and weight if you stick to a few prime lenses. If you are going to add weight, there is not real reason not to go with a top of line DSLR (thought I admit that I have used the D500 only a handful of times). If you need light, silent, pocketable, go mirrorless. if you need high quality, really fast focus or long lenses go with DSLR and tripod !

just me :-)


You of course are quite correct Tom....it makes a lot of sense to dedicate specific equipment to specific tasks. The trouble with that philosophy however, is that unless the use is equally shared, one item may get little use...as per your D500.

This holds two discomforts for me.
I've always subscribed to the one camera scenario...or at least one system... to avoid confusion in functionality. Even when working professionally, despite carrying two Nikons, I preferred to change lenses on my 'favourite' body ...rather than swop bodies. But in fairness I was rarely rushed on my type of assignments. Had I been a press photographer, that might have influenced my practises. I just found the whole juggling two lots of cards and batteries more of a distraction than simply swopping the lens. Silly I know.

:lol:

The other reason is my morbid dread of expensive equipment sitting idle. Probably my Yorkshire ancestry.

:lol:

But you are right, where there is a clear divide in camera capabilities, it does seem to be a fruitless exercise trying to bend one camera to match the other's prowess.

I suspect my desire for simplification is also fuelled by the presence of the IR camera, also in the bag, adding further 'unrest'. Perhaps I need to compartmentalise my photographic excursions and only take what needed for that outing.
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I agree Eric.

It is about habits, strategies and approaches.
I wouldnt say anyone was wrong but alllow each to sort out preferences and ways of working.
In the end....... Many ways to skin a cat!



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Eric-

I admire your Yorkshire approach!

But this is sort of a unique situation...here we are...lots of money spent on Nikon lenses (you really get screwed in the 2nd hand market). Fuji comes along with great products, mostly at about 25-33% of Nikon prices and about the same percent in weight (especially if you stick to just a few prime lenses).

If the D500 lasts half as long as my D300s (and it should) it will be a pretty cheap investment. I have a few lenses in the closet that I never should have purchases (200mm F2 anybody :-) but most of them will be worth more as a tax write off if I donate them to a school program at this point.

So I trim my Nikon lens shelf a little and try to stay "somewhat" restrained in Fuji purchases...it's the best of all worlds :-) :-)



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Eric-

PS...I've always felt the way you do about not changing stuff around...until now.

I used to always have 2 setups that were identical and one would wind up with almost no use when the time came to upgrade them...and who can explain that.



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TomOC wrote:
Eric-

I admire your Yorkshire approach!

But this is sort of a unique situation...here we are...lots of money spent on Nikon lenses (you really get screwed in the 2nd hand market). Fuji comes along with great products, mostly at about 25-33% of Nikon prices and about the same percent in weight (especially if you stick to just a few prime lenses).

If the D500 lasts half as long as my D300s (and it should) it will be a pretty cheap investment. I have a few lenses in the closet that I never should have purchases (200mm F2 anybody :-) but most of them will be worth more as a tax write off if I donate them to a school program at this point.

So I trim my Nikon lens shelf a little and try to stay "somewhat" restrained in Fuji purchases...it's the best of all worlds :-) :-)


I took the brave step of getting rid of all my Nikon gear.....mainly to fund my wife's iPad habit. :lol:

My Nikon bodies were older models and the lenses were more suited to my professional needs. I had a willing buyer for much of it, in a young man setting up a marketing company in London and wanting to keep purchases down to necessities while he built his business. So I decided I would never give Fuji a fair try while looking over my shoulder at the tried and tested Nikons.

I don't regret doing it, as I still feel the euipment I had was not ideal for my retired needs.(i.e. More travelling) But in using the mirrorless, I have realised, like most things, its all about being fit for purpose...and the Fuji has dead spots in its uses, which I never experienced with Nikons.

Actually that's not true! I did experience some shortfalls trying to use the D750 in certain professional situations.

Anyway...I am content with the possibility that a Nikon restock may be on the cards. The only question is how fully to equip the Nikon system and what part the Fuji system will play in a more realistic horses for courses scenario....
...and whether I can live with these different bedpartners. o.O



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Eric said.... "fit for purpose...and the Fuji has dead spots in its uses, which I never experienced with Nikons."

I agree there are instances where using my Nikons is preferable to my Fujis.

Eric, can you tell us your instances where you find this lack of functionality?



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jk wrote:
Eric said.... "fit for purpose...and the Fuji has dead spots in its uses, which I never experienced with Nikons."

I agree there are instances where using my Nikons is preferable to my Fujis.

Eric, can you tell us your instances where you find this lack of functionality?


The one that immediately springs to mind is the camera dies, if its turned off and on again too soon. It's a known fault that necessitates taking the battery out and replacing it to resurrect the camera. It has to be the body battery ...which means removing the grip first! Not 21century electronics and a pain. It's happened about 3 times to me.

The camera HAS to be on CL or CH to get a continuous view of a moving subject. Even so it's like a slow motion flicker movie. If I set it on S single shot it still loses the subject due to black out...even with boost on. This means I HAVE to take more exposures than I need to.

It may be I haven't had enough trial and error but I still haven't got the best AFC mode for flying birds. I don't think it refocuses fast enough in AFC. If I shoot a series of exposures of moving critters, there WILL be at least one out of focus image in every sequence.

Add to this the battery life and the not so light package when using long lenses and it means....I don't think the Fuji is an action camera.

I know there are X series wildlife photographers. I just think they could make like easier for themselves with a DSLR.



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