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| Posted: Tue Sep 12th, 2017 14:14 |
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Robert wrote:jk wrote:  Dont tell jk, but I do have a 'non connected' version of CC which has the clarity option. I just hadn't read or registered its name in ACR.I also haven't used it for as long as I can recall ( I've been using jpegs while I got used to the Fuji so no ACR) ....forgot about its use. 
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12th, 2017 14:24 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: I still think it's like The Hogwarts Express... so I've added a young wizard.  Attachment: Snapseed.jpg (Downloaded 25 times)
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12th, 2017 14:29 |
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Eric
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Sorry Jonathan ...wandering waaaay off topic as usual. I would like to see how the Sony alpha 9 performs compared to Fuji in terms of viewfinder blackout and battery life as it's presumably the same sensor that Nkon would use??
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13th, 2017 02:31 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:I would like to see how the Sony alpha 9 performs compared to Fuji in terms of viewfinder blackout and battery life as it's presumably the same sensor that Nkon would use?? Well on paper... Not real paper you understand! The a9 seems to answer some of your needs. Zero viewfinder blackout, ~2000 exposures per battery and 20 FPS. Not sure about the AF... https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a9-full-review/2 I think this is similar to the camera I encountered when I was photographing the Mini-Series race meetings last year which was probably an a7. The young lad who was using it had a bag full of mixed lenses, Nikon, Canon and Samyang, with a couple of Zeiss thrown in for good measure. He assured me they all worked perfectly with appropriate adaptors. What struck me was the tiny size of the camera body compared with the lenses. He used it mainly for video but also took stills. To me the reason to have interest in these mirrorless reflex cameras is to remove a cumbersome mirror mechanism, the pentaprism and reduce the weight, bulk and depth of the lens mount, allowing for a greater flexibility of lens fitment across other lens makers mounts. All that must reduce the cost of manufacture, allowing for more R&D to perfect the new designs and advance the output IQ, ease of use and versatility of the camera. Really all it is is something to mount the sensor, recording memory and exposure controls. In the meantime I enjoy my D3! 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13th, 2017 05:34 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: Succinctly put! But I would question the last point because it's also the thing you have to hold in your hand. Removing the pentaprism is one thing. But manufacturers seem to have the notion that photographers hands are getting smaller, because in their actions to reduce size and weight, they are making the units too small in the hand. This is especially true when adding even modest length lenses as it makes it unbalanced. Their answer is to offer the battery grip, which conveniently adds more desperately needed battery help but also adds back the body height they chopped off to meet its marketing brief of the 'smallest lightest serious camera on the market'. It's crazy. Holding the D850, despite being heavier, alongside the fully tooled up XT2, the Nikon felt much easier in the hand. Ok Nikon short to mid range lenses are going to be heavier than Fuji but on the longer lenses, Fujis offerings are still quite weighty. When added to the inferior hand feel I think the Nikon D850 would be the ergonomics winner. So going back to the thread title... If Nikon follow the same route as Fuji, with wholesale size reduction and compromised battery capacity, then I wouldn't be tempted with a Nikon mirrorless. Because in addition it would still have standard Nikon lens weight.....unless they introduced a whole new range of lightweights for mirrorless. I certainly won't be waiting to see what they might come up with. It will either be ....persevere with the Fuji (despite feeling a little conned by weight claims) or switch to the D850.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13th, 2017 11:49 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:
Ah! I don't often hold my cameras in my hand while taking photographs, except maybe the D3300, which is pretty tiny, even with the 18-105 lens. I would say 80% of my planned photographs are taken using my surveyors tripod, perhaps 10% mainly motorsport and field sports like rugby or football, using a monopod. The remaining 10% are are hand held, probably taken ad-hoc in the paddock or where I am unwilling to take a tripod, for whatever reason. All plants and flowers are taken using one of the tripods. Anything longer than 200mm, except casual snap-shots tend to use the tripod, bipod or monopod. I find a bipod very handy for plants and flowers, also for insects. With a bipod you can easily move in and out to follow a butterfly or bee. Granted a grip is handy to carry the camera, with lens attached and for hand holding it provides good... grip? Perhaps the manufacturers of these small cameras could produce a folding handle of some sort, perhaps even a strap handle or something.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13th, 2017 13:50 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: Just realised something!! For years I did exactly what you do...working commercially I always used a support. It was only when I retired that I adopted a more cavalier approach and made do with handheld for hobby photography. It was ONLY THEN that I started my quest for lighter equipment. It never dawned on me till now that it was a change in shooting style that prompted the heavy camera complaint. Lately I've been using the monopod again ...as in these bird shots. Of course I NEVER use a shoulder strap on my camera (only on the bag). I carry it in my hand with a lanyard round my wrist. So it's not surprising I am bemoaning grip size. 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13th, 2017 15:05 |
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I dont use a battery grip very often unless I am shooting motorsport. I got the battery grip for my XT1 and hated using it. Same for D700, D800. I will not buy a grip for the D850. I almost always shoot hand held. IfI am shooting with long telephotos I use a monopod. At night or lowlight I shoot on a tripod.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13th, 2017 18:03 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:Just realised something!! Pleased to be of assistance! Some of your remarks during our exchanges have had a big influence on my photography, added to my engineering background, I always seek a solid mount for my camera wherever possible. One of my mates from way back when often said I was so good at welding because my hands shake a lot. It's true, but for photography that's not good, so a heavy, solid tripod is important! You would have laughed had you seen me capturing the Hogwarts Express, up to my ankles in water lugging my big heavy tripod across the moorside bog together with the D3 at midnight. You have sometimes mentioned seasickness when watching hand held movies. I realised a similar issue exists with stills. More than once you have commented that continuously experimenting with various 'oddball' image processing software was just a wast of time, better to really get used to one and master that. So I got the Adobe CC photography package. It all made sense and has helped my photography over the years. Going OT can be good! Sorry JK!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14th, 2017 03:20 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I dont use a battery grip very often unless I am shooting motorsport. I got the battery grip for my XT1 and hated using it. Same for D700, D800. I had to get the XT2 grip...as it was on half price offer. I don't believe the D850 needs the extra grip for holding, the body grip deep enough. Of course having the second set of controls on the grip is useful for portrait shots. I find the smaller bodies cause me to have lesser hold on the camera. There is a tendency for my 'pinky' to drop off the bottom and serve no support function. This means that when using the index finger to operate the camera there are only my two middle fingers actually supporting the body, (apart from the left hand of course) If the body height is sufficient I get all three fingers holding the grip, which is a 50% increase in support and puts less turning stres on the middle two fingers. I guess this exacting requirement may be more significant with me hand carrying as opposed to using a shoulder strap?
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