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| Posted: Sun Oct 8th, 2017 15:51 |
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Robert
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I know I keep harking back to this sharpness/definition thing but there is much more to an image than raw sharpness and basic contrast. This applies particularly to the mid range focal lengths, obviously a birder needs the ultimate sharpness and so does the avid macro photographer. Some of the best Zeiss lenses have a soft feel to their images, they aren't substandard, they are designed that way. Also the colour of the lens adds another 'layer' to the image, oft times enhancing the final picture. There is much more to a lens than meets the eye. I have to admit these newer cameras can probably make more of what they receive from the lens than the earlier less sensitive cameras with lower resolution and a narrower dynamic range. This probably presents another challenge to the user in harnessing the 'power' of the combination. Am struggling to put this over clearly, but I think the message is there.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 8th, 2017 16:04 |
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jk
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novicius wrote:Eric wrote: I think that is a truth as a good lens will perform well but there is a limit but I dont know where this limit is!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 8th, 2017 16:49 |
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Eric
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novicius wrote:Eric wrote: I used an AFD 300mm f2.8 for a number of years. Regarded as a great lens it served me well...until I tried an AFS 300mm f4. No contest. A lack of colour fringing was the main difference, but the image was also sharper..even at f4. Maybe I had a lesser lens all those years? My position is that I am not prepared to spend thousands of pounds on long reach prime lenses in addition to the camera body. Older long lenses = weight and bulk. Add to this my experience with older telephoto lenses ( I had a 200mm that was also questionable with digital) and my only choice is ...get a cheaper zoom lens or forget long range photography. I wonder if zoom lenses will resolve the D850 sensor optimally? 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 8th, 2017 23:49 |
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novicius
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Eric wrote:novicius wrote: Interesting observations , my Longest lens are the Novoflex 400 F5.6 ( two of those , one with macro bellows and the other with metal tube with has its coating flaking off , yet without impairing image quality )..these suffer of Curvature of field ( not as much as the Leitz - telyt lenses ), but to counter that , a D1X is residing on those , turning them into 600mm f5.6 lenses , these perform "better " with that camera then they ever did with a F / F2 /F3 /FA , yet I am looking into a Nikon V1 as the bellows were never intended to withstand the " heftiness " of a Big D camera. Thing is , some Digital camera`s can be Calibrated to the Lens in use, and as reviewers , thorough they may be , NEVER mention the Calibration possibilities , leads me to ask : Dear Messrs. D850 shooters , does it have the same calibration options as the D3S/X camera`s , which have the Non-CPU section where Focal length and Aperture can be selected , mount a "classic " lens to see how well that calibration performs , as I suspect that BOTH Lateral and longitudinal chromatic aberations will be dealt with and therefore Improving on ,...Sharpness - Color Rendition - Micro Contrast ,..even minimises Veiling Flare as well , as I have found that to be the case with the D3S/X camera`s... ( tongue in cheek )...perhaps J K could be pursuaded to dust-off his trusty Nikkor 50mm F1.2 putting it through its paces with that D850...and mr. Whistler might have something too...? Looking forward to your observations.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2017 00:34 |
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amazing50
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jk wrote:Mirrorless cameras allow you to see the exposure that will be rendered before you make the exposure itself. If you are in live view and hit the OK button on the bottom left, it shows the actual exposure and on the right edge of the screen an exposure scale. The image will change to reflect your settings. Found it quite accurate today doing some weird sky colours, but still tried a few shots to get the effect I wanted. It can also show a live histogram, provided it's turned on in the menus, in this mode by pressing the info button until it comes up.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2017 03:12 |
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jk
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amazing50 wrote:jk wrote: I will give that a test as I havent ever tried that. In the mirrorless cameras the image on the rear screen or EVF is what you capture from the sensor.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2017 03:12 |
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jk
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amazing50 wrote:jk wrote: I will give that a test as I havent ever tried that. In the mirrorless cameras the image on the rear screen or EVF is what you capture from the sensor.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2017 03:45 |
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Graham Whistler
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I have no old film age Nikon lenses to try all mine are modern ones! Lots more to learn about this camera it seems to be very well thought-out. So far no complaints at all for serious still photography of a wide range of subject matter. The only downside for me so far: As I am also a serious professional user of camcorders for my railway dvds I have done some video tests and I still think a designer made pro camcorder is still the best tool. It is not easy to do smooth zooms with a DSLR.The steady-cam on the D850 is not all that good. Using the LCD monitor in bright light is also a no no and clip on hoods get in the way when shooting action.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2017 06:22 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:I have no old film age Nikon lenses to try all mine are modern ones! Lots more to learn about this camera it seems to be very well thought-out. So far no complaints at all for serious still photography of a wide range of subject matter. The only downside for me so far: I tend to agree with your video conclusion. However I was very surprised how much of an improvement in the zoom control there has been on my wife's LUMIX FZ2000....compared to her previous FZ1000. It's smooth and slow...with an option for a faster zoom on a separate button! It's quite ironic that I've been using previous cameras poor zoom control to try to stop her zooming so much. She has never fully embraced the moving picture not moving camera notion. Now she can do it smoothly it's lessened my argument. If Panasonic can deliver professional zoom control then you would have hoped Nikon could do it also. Graham and Jonathan I know you have your hands full evaluating the D850 for your own purposes but when you get a spare moment....I would really like to know how the D850 compares to the D500 with the 80-400 and the 100-500 lenses. (Assuming you both have the D500 and one of those zoom lenses) I am not in the market for long primes...so if I go back to Nikon for bird photography it would be one of these lenses. The question is whether the D850 with its extra cropability is going to be better than a D500 with these 'lesser' lenses? Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2017 08:00 |
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jk
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I have the 200-500 so can test that on D850 and try to get similar shots with the D500. I have the Sigma 80-400 which the Nikon equivalent should best easily. I tend to use the 70-300 AFS VR and 200-500 AFS VR which gives me best coverage.
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