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Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2015 14:20
 
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So you went for the D610, Iain? I would be interested to get your perspective on how the D7200 compares to the D610.. regarding the buffer speed and general responsiveness.

Coming from the D3 to the D750 I do feel that the D3 was faster, slicker and did everything quicker. Of course it only has 12mp which meant smaller files to handle. It's this comparative 'sluggishness' that disappoints on the D750. Of course it may just be the difference between Dbodies and Dxx bodies.


Eric, can you comment further on this sluggishness of the D750.
I'm likely to get a D750 or D810 in the new year but I feel that the D810 is too many MP especially as I have a D800. The D750 has some nice improvements over my D600.


It's difficult to quantify...and maybe down to the card I was using. I was shooting a kitchen with tricky lighting ( darkworktops, light woodwork with lots of LED spots). It's often a recipe for burntout highlight and distracting reflections so I bracket heavily and rob elements from each. EricHDR. Lol

Anyway, the focus acquisition was slightly slower than the D3. (Same lens) Not major or any consequence when shooting statics. It did make me wonder how it would perform in low light action situations.

The main issue was the speed writing files. I repeat it may have been a slow card ( must check that tomorrow) but if I shot a burst of 5, then another burst of 5, moved the tripod slightly and shot another set of five...the last couple of shots ie 14/15 wouldn't fire for a couple of seconds. The file writing light seemed to be permanently on and it stayed lit for some time after I stopped shooting.

I just got the feeling when challenging it, the D750 went at its own pace. Somehow the D3 always seemed to keep pace with my needs.

Must look at that card...I just remembered Iused the best ones in the Fuji ...and the wife nicked some for video use. She may have left me with dross. Lol

I would put the D750 on par with the Fuji XT for performance.



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It may be your card Eric as I found the D7200 slow but was using a class 10 600x but now using Lexar 1000x it ok.
I'll have to try some long bursts as I tend to do short bursts.

 




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It may be your card Eric as I found the D7200 slow but was using a class 10 600x but now using Lexar 1000x it ok.
I'll have to try some long bursts as I tend to do short bursts.


Have ordered a couple of those cards to replace mine. Will see if that changes my view of the D750.

Thinking about it....most of my fast cards were for the D3 ...ie compactflash! SD cards were bought for Jan's less taxing cameras. I got some reasonably fast ones for the Fuji...but then Jan wanted them for video!!



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I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison



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I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison


Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.



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Eric wrote:
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I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison


Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.


Oh, this comment on the same article suggests my buying the UHS II Lexar is NOT going to help!!!

"The most current version of SDHC UHS-II can write at 280 MB/sec. The newly announced Nikon D750 has no support for UHS-II, so it would be pointless to try to use one of those cards. In addition, there is internal bus speed limitations too, just like what the user at Flickr noticed. If manufacturer uses cheaper parts or slower bus, then newer and faster cards won't do anything":thumbsdown:

I do find all this card speed, bus speed and the varying configurations the manufacturers use for different models confusing and frankly irritating. I just want the camera to take pictures at my pace! Maybe performance is assigned just to the D4 range?
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Eric wrote:
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I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison


Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.


The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.



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Oh, this comment on the same article suggests my buying the UHS II Lexar is NOT going to help!!!

"The most current version of SDHC UHS-II can write at 280 MB/sec. The newly announced Nikon D750 has no support for UHS-II, so it would be pointless to try to use one of those cards. In addition, there is internal bus speed limitations too, just like what the user at Flickr noticed. If manufacturer uses cheaper parts or slower bus, then newer and faster cards won't do anything":thumbsdown:


I agree but if you get a SDHC-UHS-II card it will prove that the card is not the limiting factor. Also there will probably be an update of the firmware that will allow its use if the rest of the bus technology doesnt stop this.
If the card does work not in the D750 then it will in the XT1. :-)



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jk wrote:
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jk wrote:
I downloaded the D750 manual but nowhere (AFAIK) does it give buffer size in frames.

This article is very useful.
https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison


Thanks JK, very interesting. Think I need a D4S. Lol

The D3 v D750 similarity suggests that my observation may be down to a card issue. We shall see.


The D5 will be here in 2016. I think you have itchy wallet syndrome! Please send D750 to me for testing, I will send you back a D3S.


Yorkshire wallets are coated with anti itch cream from the outset.
;-)

Not planning on any other purchase till I have thinned out all my existing gear and decided if it's Nikon of Fuji for me.



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Oh, this comment on the same article suggests my buying the UHS II Lexar is NOT going to help!!!

"The most current version of SDHC UHS-II can write at 280 MB/sec. The newly announced Nikon D750 has no support for UHS-II, so it would be pointless to try to use one of those cards. In addition, there is internal bus speed limitations too, just like what the user at Flickr noticed. If manufacturer uses cheaper parts or slower bus, then newer and faster cards won't do anything":thumbsdown:


I agree but if you get a SDHC-UHS-II card it will prove that the card is not the limiting factor. Also there will probably be an update of the firmware that will allow its use if the rest of the bus technology doesnt stop this.
If the card does not work in the D750 then it will in the XT1. :-)


There you go with the 'glass half ful' position....just when I was having negative waves.
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