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| Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2015 16:37 |
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This thread is a split from several off topic posts in Iain's "Quick Question". Eric Wrote: In fairness I think you missed a significant step not going to the D300. Not quite the magnitude of the D2X to D3 step change, but the D300 was in the same wave of urgent upgrades designed to win back users who were drifting towards Canon for better high ISO noise performance. And as such did make a significant step improvement worth buying into. Eric, I had been led to believe, by several 'knowledgable' people that the D300 was pretty much a cosmetic up-grade from the D200. I know one or two here have maintained that the D300 up-grade was more than cosmetic, but: There were also two other factors, I wasn't prepared to invest a further £800 in another new body when the D200 was producing the quality of images that I needed and my long term goal has always been a full frame 35mm (FX) camera, indeed I still miss my 6x6 Bronica S2a single lens reflex. But MF digital is out of the question on cost grounds and also their sensors are only slightly bigger than FX anyway, so there isn't much to be gained. In the next few month I am hoping to acquire a D3, a good one has come available from an unexpected quarter and I hope to clinch it next year. So, as I do, I have been reading up as much as I can about the D3, while I am aware of the basics, I want to swat up on the detail. One of my sources of info is DPPreview: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond3 One of the things in the review I have noticed is that they are constantly referring to the D300 and many of the components seem to be common, for example the rear viewing screen. They also make direct comparisons between the D3 and the D300 both regarding image quality and ISO performance. They regard the D300 as a worthy stable mate for it's big brother. The comparison images at the end of the review compare very favourably with the D3 until about ISO 1600, when the D300 starts to break down. The smaller sensor packing almost the same number of pixels then shows it's limitations. I am very tempted to try a D300 and see how it feels and performs, they can be had for very little money now. It may be worth a punt, even though I still intend to get the D3.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2015 09:25 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:This thread is a split from several off topic posts in Iain's "Quick Question". Well I think those knowledgable people were talking through the wrong orifice. Lol So... a new CMOS sensor and Expeed processor, more active pixels giving higher resolution, wider ISO range with greater noise reduction, 51point focusing system, bigger LCD with more pixels, faster fps, burst rates and buffer,...that's a cosmetic upgrade? I really enjoyed the D300. It was better than the D2X never mind the D200. (Although in fairness I only had a D200 for IR so didn't see its full colour performance. The only thing that eclipsed it was the D3 at that time. And had I not gone to FX I suspect I may still have it. Don't get me wrong...I still think the D3 is the best choice for you. I wouldn't waste any of that money trying a D300. The step change in all areas is the D3. I just think the D300 is a forgotten hero.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2015 13:29 |
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Robert
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Mmm, one of them was a salesman at Calumet, Manchester, when I bought my second D200, I was dithering whether to stick with a second D200 or step up to the D300. I suppose you should never listen to sales people... Probably wanting to off load old stock. I thought he would have been wanting to sell a full price current camera rather than old stock at a very knocked down price. I wasn't contemplating parting with cash for one!  I may be able to do a deal.I was just thinking if the D300 IS so much better then I should have one instead of my beloved D200. I don't see the D3 as being my only body, I do see a place for a good robust DX body for times when I want more reach and less weight. We have a very good rugby team where I live and they provide some very spectacular photo opportunities at times. I don't do sport but I do enjoy photographing it. A D3 and a D300 would make a good combo, 80 - 200 on the D3 and the 300 f2.8 on the D300 would be very useful. Another worthwhile factor would be a standardisation of features/menus and settings which seem to be pretty much similar between the D3 and D300 as applicable of course. A question, do the D200 and the D300 share the same battery? The other option I looked at when I got my second D200 was to get the Fuji version which offered arguably a better sensor. The deal breaker was the batteries weren't interchangeable. I accept the D3 batteries are different, because that is a completely different camera.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2015 15:08 |
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jk
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Robert wrote:
Yes they are if I remember correctly. The EN-EL3e works in the D300 and D200.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2015 15:42 |
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Robert
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Thanks Jk. I now have slightly muddy water, I have been offered the choice of D300 or D300S... The main difference seems to be video but there seem to be several smaller improvements like a proper button in the multi controller as on the D3 and dual card slots, a-la D700. I think the shutter count is <10,000 and I am sure a good deal can be struck. Any thoughts?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2015 04:12 |
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jk
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Take D300S if you use video. Otherwise the cameras are identical. There might be refinement on buttons but they work the same.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2015 07:27 |
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jk
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Regarding the various cameras with 12MP and thereabouts. We seems to have set of cameras such as D3, D3S, D700, D300, D300S, D90 with all much the same number of MP but in themselves very different cameras regarding format FX v. DX, video or not, different AF and batteries. Each camera has niches or areas of distinct advantage, even the D90 can be seen as a cheap, light and functional camera with everything! FX D3, D3S, D700 DX D300, D300S, D90. With Video D3S, D300S, D90 Without video D3, D700, D300. With sensor self clean D3S, D700, D300S, D300 Built-in flash and CLS All except D3, D3S. I am sure there are other key items of functionality that I have missed.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2015 08:24 |
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jk
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BTW: I have deliberately not included the D7000 onwards and the D200 itself. Robert, you may find this page interesting. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond300 Half way down it shows a D300 v. D200 features comparison table.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2015 12:14 |
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I would get the D3 and THEN decide if you need to change the D200 to a D300. The D3 is SO different that you will fall in love with FX... and DX may fade into the background to the point that the D200 may be adequate when you need DX. Cropping a D3 matches the D300... but of course loses file size.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2015 05:50 |
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Robert
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Words of wisdom as usual from our Yorkshire bred member! 
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