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Sharpness or antiMoiré? | Rate Topic |
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 09:35 |
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jk wrote:Gary not too sharp, but oversharpened. I am sitting here with a big smile on my face trying to reduce this to a sharpness scale, if one should exist, with 1 being a degree of undersharp, and 10 being a degree oversharpened. This would have me believe that the D800 falls at the beginning of the scale and one can correct to the level of sharpness one wants while the D800e has a baseline sharpness above the 5 on the scale. Can't wait for Eric to toss out some photos which will make all this very clear.
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 13:53 |
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Squarerigger wrote: jk wrote: This crop of some berries has been (over) sharpened on the left half. Notice the 'halo' around the edges of the berries Attachment: DSCF0985.jpg (Downloaded 47 times)
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 13:57 |
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Graham Whistler wrote: D800 is quite sharp enough for me and as stated while I was away my D3X has been sold. The D800 is far sharper more fine detail than the D3X so progress over last 3 years shows. Auto focus also quicker and low noise at high ISO is better, now back in UK will do more tests on high ISO and report back results. Thanks for all your work in reviewing the D800 on the road. The only downside is I will have to wait till I get back from Austria in June, to hunt one down. :-(
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 14:48 |
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Thanks Eric, that clears up the entire problem I was having with too sharp. I have never noticed the phenominum before. I will be on the lookout for this over sharpening in my own as well as other photos.
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 14:58 |
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I think that this highlights some of the issues I have with what I consider to be over Photoshopped images. Many/some magazine images that I see are over-enhanced and oversharpened but that is only my opinion as these images are published but then again many magazines do not pay reproduction fees but rely on people wanting to see their images in print!
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 15:09 |
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If you notice in Eric's example, even pixels are sharpened and the slightest speck has a minor halo. It goes from a smooth background to a speckled background, despite being well out of focus. Another process which can be (easily) overdone is Highlight and Shadows in Photoshop. It can bring out some amazing detail from the shadows but as the same time produces similar halos. The problem can go unnoticed because often the user is looking at the shadow detail and not noticing what's happening elsewhere in the image.
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 15:17 |
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Robert wrote:If you notice in Eric's example, even pixels are sharpened and the slightest speck has a minor halo. It goes from a smooth background to a speckled background, despite being well out of focus. Its why I always commend people to apply filters within masked areas. It may take longer but the results are more controlled, and targetted. As you say, the background was already well out of focus...so why sharpen it? in fact it's contrary to the whole concept of boketh.
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 15:17 |
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That's a very good point Robert. I have decided to take a look at some of the photos I have taken to see if I went overboard with the sharpening or shadow correction in Aperture. I am sure I am guilty of some over "something" when processing some photos.
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 15:22 |
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That is a problem when anyone is concentrating on a part of the image and fail to check the whole image.
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2012 15:41 |
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I think you have correctly identified an area of weakness I have when adjusting photos Jonathan. I have a tendency to focus on the one area I find needs work but do not see the photo as a whole. This issue has been very good for my education.
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