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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 17:02
 
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I'm getting better IQ from the D7200 Robert.

What even tripod mounted D810?



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This sort of results from others confirms to me that a D750 is probably a good replacement for my D3.
However I have been tempted a few times by low mileage D3X cameras as these have 24MP but the older EXPEED 3 chipset.


I would have thought the Expeed chipset simply matches the sensor demands? They must be matched both in generational development and performance terms, I would have thought, sort of 'hand in glove'.

To me the more pertinent question would be does the D3X loose any of the D3's superb low light performance, if so, does slightly reduced low light performance matter for the anticipated application?

Until now, for me low light hasn't been a great attraction, my primary objective has been to photograph plants and flowers in good or at least workable light, for the most part the D200 has been and still is superb for that.

My interest in low light photography and my long term goal of having a full frame 35mm (FX) body to allow the full utilisation of my carefully chosen full frame lenses is what drives my choice of a D3, I also have severe budget constraints.

As my prime focus on plant photography reduces, I am looking at a broader range of subjects and a more relaxed general interest in photography, experimenting with technique, both in capturing and processing images and having some fun along the way.



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Eric wrote:
Iain wrote:
I'm getting better IQ from the D7200 Robert.

What even tripod mounted D810?


My guess hand held or maybe lightweight tripod/monopod?



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Iain wrote:
I'm getting better IQ from the D7200 Robert.

What even tripod mounted D810?


My guess hand held or maybe lightweight tripod/monopod?


Well it will be useful to have that confirmed.

I would have thought there could be little doubt that the D800 has better resolving power than most other Nikon bodies but the realisation of its potential depends so much more on optimal technique.

That being the case, it may not be the best choice for all but the purists.



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jk wrote:
This sort of results from others confirms to me that a D750 is probably a good replacement for my D3.
However I have been tempted a few times by low mileage D3X cameras as these have 24MP but the older EXPEED 3 chipset. The chipset that supports the sensor is as important as the sensor!
The D750 has EXPEED 4 chipset, I believe.

Another thing to check.


Yes it does have Expeed 4...but I don't see it tearing up the Expeed 3 'record books'.

The D750 has done nothing for my photography that the D3 couldn't do. It's just lighter, has a better handgrip and a useful tilting rear screen.

Lower noise and better high ISO noise reduction in v4



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Lower noise and better high ISO noise reduction in v4

Yes, but my point is the sensor is probably different too, else they could have gone straight to 4 logic, instead of 3? I don't see the logic chips being developed in isolation from the sensor. The way I see it it's the sensors which are evolving, the logic chips are simply taking advantage of the greater (better?) output from the sensor.



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The next generation or technology leap of sensors are the organic sensors.
http://www.andrewgoodman.me/blog/photogrpahy/the-fujifilm-organic-sensor/

As you say the current technology is moving forward and the logic chips are devloped to keep up with these step advances.



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jk wrote:
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jk wrote:
This sort of results from others confirms to me that a D750 is probably a good replacement for my D3.
However I have been tempted a few times by low mileage D3X cameras as these have 24MP but the older EXPEED 3 chipset. The chipset that supports the sensor is as important as the sensor!
The D750 has EXPEED 4 chipset, I believe.

Another thing to check.


Yes it does have Expeed 4...but I don't see it tearing up the Expeed 3 'record books'.

The D750 has done nothing for my photography that the D3 couldn't do. It's just lighter, has a better handgrip and a useful tilting rear screen.

Lower noise and better high ISO noise reduction in v4


Yes I read the claims but my point was that from a perceptual point of view, I don't find the improvement THAT significant such that it would sway me towards Expeed 4 if price were an issue.

The whole D750 package is an improvement on previous like cameras and I am pleased I upgraded. I am not sure just Expeed 4 would have done it for me.



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Lower noise and better high ISO noise reduction in v4


Yes, but my point is the sensor is probably different too, else they could have gone straight to 4 logic, instead of 3? I don't see the logic chips being developed in isolation from the sensor. The way I see it it's the sensors which are evolving, the logic chips are simply taking advantage of the greater (better?) output from the sensor.






These incremental improvements are not proportional to the typical price increments we have to pay for a 'new' body. It's one of the reasons I frequently skip a version or two. The launch prices are invariably about the same but by missing out a couple of stages you get a more noticeable step improvement for the price. It's a Yorkshire thing.
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Thanks JK, wasn't aware of that. Very interesting, also:

http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n130611.html

Don't think that will be on my shopping list though. My Neanderthal instincts tell me the D3 will see my time out!

Back to Topic. :offtopic:

Iain, can you confirm about the tripod question please. Are these slightly disappointing D800 images hand held or tripod mounted?



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