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| Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2015 02:14 |
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Robert
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On the resolution thing, it depends entirely on how you intend to use your images. If you intend to print them larger than A2 then yes you may need one of these very high resolution bodies* but if like me you only plan to use the images at up to 1024 pixels on the long side (for display on a computer monitor) then even at a lowly? 12Mp, you have to down-sample x4 times to reduce the image from 4256 (D3) to 1024. The main advantage with the FX and more recent bodies is the vast improvement in high ISO and dynamic range. The larger sensor (and larger photosites) makes the camera more forgiving. The smaller photosites of the very high resolution bodies makes the camera less forgiving, demanding a sturdy tripod and the very best lenses to get the full benefit of the very high resolution. *I have printed larger than A2 from significantly cropped D200 10.5 Mp images and the flower detail and IQ held up very well and have been admired by critical viewers. (The generally accepted recommended viewing distance for pictures is 1.5X the diagonal)
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| Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2015 13:41 |
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Iain
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Part of my thinking on high res is it can be cropped and still have a good mp count.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2015 15:57 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:Part of my thinking on high res is it can be cropped and still have a good mp count. I understand where you are coming from Iain but I have reservations about sectional enlargement of high pixel images. I know that sounds contradictory or a bit bizarre, as its billed as one of the advantages of having more pixels available. But in my experience the more pixels.. the more precise your technique needs to be. If the technique is slightly off, you merely amplify that lack of precision by cropping / sectional enlarging, despite the final image having apparent ample size. I struggled with this before the D3 came along. The 12mp on an FX sensor was/ is incredibly forgiving of technique. Whilst not advocating casual or sloppiness in photography it can be invaluable shotsaver when needing to shoot quickly. For this reason, I agree with Jonathan's view that 24mp on an FX sensor being as far as you should go .....for general photography. If you are doing studio or landscape with the camera tripod mounted then 36mp will be better. But handholding or shooting on the fly, I don't see the D800 giving any advantage over the D610 or D750....it could be worse! I have no experience of the 610 but I am sure it is comparable IQ wise to the 750. I do feel the 750 does give D3 comparable, if not better, images, yet still gives sufficient latitude in technique. My priority would be 750>610> 800 depending on budget. I might even slide D3 in before 800.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2015 17:10 |
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Robert
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Iain wrote:Part of my thinking on high res is it can be cropped and still have a good mp count. Yes, you will still have a fair Mp count Iain but will they be sharp enough? Mp's are no substitute for a good long lens, when they demand an ultra high definition lens to provide a sharp image to crop at that level, together with a solid tripod to avoid any shake. We have had this debate many times between using X2 converters and cropping, IMHO the cropping option you are contemplating suffers the same limitations, once you start magnifying the image significantly it becomes extremely hard to maintain image quality, no matter what route you take. There are no easy (or cheap?) options. How is the D800 shaping up, any positive results yet? Any pix to show, I would love to be proved wrong.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 12:57 |
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Iain
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Still not made my mind up yet.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 12:59 |
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Robert
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How are the cropped images from the loan D800?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 13:33 |
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Iain
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I'm getting better IQ from the D7200 Robert.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 13:53 |
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Robert
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Thats what I expected, without the overheads which the D800 brings... I bang on about this ultra high definition thing, requiring the best lenses, perfect (studio) technique and so on, without personal experience, more on gut feeling and technical knowledge/theory, it's good to back it up with some actual results. Thank you.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 16:24 |
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jk
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This sort of results from others confirms to me that a D750 is probably a good replacement for my D3. However I have been tempted a few times by low mileage D3X cameras as these have 24MP but the older EXPEED 3 chipset. The chipset that supports the sensor is as important as the sensor! The D750 has EXPEED 4 chipset, I believe. Another thing to check.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2015 16:47 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:This sort of results from others confirms to me that a D750 is probably a good replacement for my D3. Yes it does have Expeed 4...but I don't see it tearing up the Expeed 3 'record books'. The D750 has done nothing for my photography that the D3 couldn't do. It's just lighter, has a better handgrip and a useful tilting rear screen.
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