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to sum up as Eric says we seem to have lost something in moving forward , rest assured before deciding to go back to Nikon, and back to a D300s I scanned through shots from lots of my older cameras and lens combos both from nikon and canon to evaluate what I perceived to be the i.q I would like to regain .

I discounted anything full frame as I don't want to move in that direction with its limited reach , If I do decide to leave mirrorless and go back to DSLR I have a d500 and lenses being kept for me by a good friend who is suffering medically and has to give up .and at a super price to . time will tell

 




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totally agree there Eric . a good p/p regime does help as does a good de-noise plug in for photoshop if you use it . here's one from the panasonic g80 at 3200iso taken a couple of weeks ago in grey overcast , normally I would not have bothered in this sort of light but its a rarity (Slavonian grebe) so it had to be done . my main problem is my lens whilst being a Leica is a f6.3 minimum and though I do love the fact I can shoot at a equivalent 800mm on the 2x crop factor and with 5 way i.s the light is the limiting factor .
I will be hoping to find a f4 or better when the d300s arrives . anyway heres this I will look for higher iso examples later
tossing and turning by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr



Jeff that's a superb shot of the Slav. I do wonder why you need to change gear when you can get results like that? Did you have to use any noise reduction on that image? How much of a crop is it?

I would LOVE to achieve such sharp noise free results but either the locations, lighting or both seem to be conspiring to mean I need to crop noisy images....making them worse. I would like to think I could get images out of the camera that don't need post processing. I spent years at a computer and would like to now...just take photos. But at the moment I am failing.

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its probably about a 50% crop Eric , and imageonic de-noise has been applied to the background layer , whilst the the bird has then been sharpened . as I stated earlier though this is great if the subject is close enough . once you put distance into the equation the whole thing goes to mush .... also not really changing gear I will be keeping this set up for the for-seeable future just running the nikon side by side for comparison and situations where I feel its needed .

and what your not seeing is my failure rate with the MFT which runs at approx 60% far higher than anything I have gotten before .. . my jan now uses a Olympus omd10-mkii which I got bnib in the summer cash back for a incredible £234 with 30 months warranty as well ....

she uses that with a panasonic 100-300 and at times beats me on i.q . 99% of my shots are hand held as well due to the in body 4 way i.s coupled with lens i.s . but there are niggles with for instance fast moving b.i.f where the nikon will come in handy ...

I have also been dabbling with manual focus lenses and getting good results there to two of which are nikon mount a 50mm f1.4 AIS and a 200mm f3.5 which are both sharp as a razor ...

 




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heres one from the manual focus 200mm f3.5 vivitar lens again hand held just to prove it could be done , this is one of the lenses I will be using on the nikon when it arrives .

manual focus no.2 by jeff and jan cohen, on Flickr

 




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I can see that I am going to have to embrace noise reduction filtration beyond my basic techniques.

Having spent years photographing (professionally) at ISO's EXCLUSIVELY BELOW 1000, the rude awakening of the ISO limitations imposed by UK wildlife photography, clearly means change in what I HAVE to do.



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It's a whole different ball game Eric , but you have some great sites near you I believe . Hopefully I'm off out in the morning chasing waxwings they have arrived in Chester at last . .

It's hard to explain a method of p.p over a forum , but what I do is so easy it takes less than 3 minutes to do a normal raw - process- j.peg conversion and post , a bit longer if any cloning is needed .

I realise there's a reluctance on here to sign up to photoshop cc but in reality the constant upgrades are worth every penny , virtually everything can be done with just one click these days which saves precious time ..

 




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blackfox wrote:
I realise there's a reluctance on here to sign up to photoshop cc but in reality the constant upgrades are worth every penny , virtually everything can be done with just one click these days which saves precious time ..

I agree, the monthly charge is a pittance, less than the cost of a couple of pints of beer in Manchester. The results are amazing, without all the messing about trying this software and that, it just works. You DON'T have to be connected to the internet except very occasionally just to update and maybe allow the software to 'phone home'. I think I only had to do that once with the MBP and it gives you ample warning before it stops working, like weeks. Even then you can still still use it to review and export images.



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Exactly rob as we get older ,the only precious thing in our life's is time once gone you can never get it back , and there's no pockets in a shroud spend while you have it

 

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