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Posted: Sun Nov 18th, 2012 12:08
 
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Latest motor industry announcement......Jaguar is going Chinese.

Was going to buy one in a couple of years time, but not now.

LMAO, a chinese Jaguar, iconic prestige marque made out of monkey metal, put together by people without a single shred of engineering DNA.

Their spokesman bullshts us all by saying it is so Jaguar can grow, RUBBISH!...it's so they can eventually throw our craftsmen out of work and make cars out of muck and on the cheap.

 




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Well remember that made in Hong Kong and Made in Taiwan were marks of derision but they now produce world class goods. Similarly if Apple can produce in China and the products are good for me then I'm sure that they are good enough. It is all about the QC/QA process.


The Jaguar design is pretty good but making a modern car is not easy will all the reliance on new technologies and sophisticated electronics.


Give me a Mini Cooper from the 1970/80 - No electronics except in the radio!! All mechanical, always works.



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Jaguar is now owned by Tata in India, so it only seems a natural downward spiral.

I miss my '86 Series III XJ-6. It had personality and was reliable, contrary to common misconceptions.



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JK: Well remember that made in Hong Kong and Made in Taiwan were marks of derision

......'were' ? They still are mate and always will be.

Similarly if Apple can produce in China

........I thought Apple were making in India. But then again computer manufacture doesn't need time served craftsmen, which building a Jaguar does.

Oh don't tell me,.....they won't need craftsmen because they'll get robots to do the job.

I can only laugh at this, and I'll be proven right; Jaguar should never have been allowed to be owned by a foreigner in the first place.

 




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Dave Groen wrote:
....... it only seems a natural downward spiral.


Yup, the writing's on the wall. Next thing some suited snake is going to tell us it's cheaper to ship the cars back from China.

In any case, the UK customer base is going to fall through the floor, no such thing as a prestige English marque when it's also made in China.

I also think someone's telling lies; they crack on about global warming caused by cars, well, in that case the last thing the world should be giving the Chinese is cars.

 




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Dave Groen wrote: Jaguar is now owned by Tata in India, so it only seems a natural downward spiral.


 
China they will probably offload it to a third world country when they lose interest.

So we may get it back eventually.

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I suggest that the reading of this book "Small is Beautiful - A study in economics as if people mattered" - by E.F.Schumacher.


This was written by a UK based economist in 1976.

If only some people were not 'ahead of their time' then maybe those in power would read and learn and not keep making mistakes that take decades to undo!



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jk wrote:
I suggest that the reading of this book "Small is Beautiful - A study in economics as if people mattered" - by E.F.Schumacher.


This was written by a UK based economist in 1976.

If only some people were not 'ahead of their time' then maybe those in power would read and learn and not keep making mistakes that take decades to undo!


You will be wanting the UK to leave the EU next.

:rofl:



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All seems eminently reasonable as long as there is no restraint of trade or economic borders.



I dont think that we should support the bureaucracy that pervades large government and institutions.

What is wrong with Champagne, Champagne-like or Brie or Brie-like/type.

In fact if it was Champagne labelled as Made in Spain anyone with more than three brain cells (I presume those with only two brain cells dont perform such cerebral things as drinking wine) would know that it was champagne-like i.e. what is currently called Cava.

Same as everyone (surely) knows that if it says that it is made in China that it wasnt made in USA or UK, France, .........
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jk wrote:
All seems eminently reasonable as long as there is no restraint of trade or economic borders.



I dont think that we should support the bureaucracy that pervades large government and institutions.

What is wrong with Champagne, Champagne-like or Brie or Brie-like/type.

In fact if it was Champagne labelled as Made in Spain anyone with more than three brain cells (I presume those with only two brain cells dont perform such cerebral things as drinking wine) would know that it was champagne-like i.e. what is currently called Cava.

Same as everyone (surely) knows that if it says that it is made in China that it wasnt made in USA or UK, France, .........
:devil:


Nothing the Bundasbank would like better than UK leaving the EU. They would grab all the city banking (especially EU related) in a flash.

Much as we hate the city bankers, their contribution to the UK economy is vital at this time.

The EU should never have been allowed to grow beyond a basic trade organisation. It has grown into a monster.

But as Confucius said " he who rides the tiger can never dismount".



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