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Posted: Wed Nov 7th, 2012 09:34
 
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Hi again
You know it would be really awesome to be able to see a positive future for the USA but ?????????????????????????????   :doh:     

my heros are Will Rogers and Sam Clements (Mark Twain for those that don't know) Will knew the political and big business boys and made fun of them and pointed out their foibles. Sam simply disliked them all, lawyers included and did nothing to hide the fact he stated it very plainly several times. "they have two hands they can steal from your pocket and mine at the same time" and that was then think what they have learned since.

:rofl:   It will be interesting to see how they use Sandy to increase how they look to us :no:

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It will be interesting to see how they use Sandy to increase how they look to us

.....be even more interesting to see them admit who is responsible for the asian environmental stress that probably triggered it.

You know it would be really awesome to be able to see a positive future for the USA but ????

......there isn't one. It's doomed....energy starvation, revenge attacks, marginalisation, environmental back lash.

One way or another US is on the way out as a global significance, get used to it mate. Learn from us Brits....adapt to survive. Grin.

 




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Well I can truly say that it will make little difference who is there but for me the current incumbent has better credentials.



Unfortunately while there is two party politics in USA, every since 1940s.... I believe, with the exception when Ross Perot raised his banner, then the situation is confrontational politics which is not good for any country.

Ray if you think Democrats are Left wing then go to UK and try out the Labour party. They make Obama look like a raving Fascist!  Whilst I dont agree with all/some of the Democrats policies, some of those offered by Mr Romney dont seem to hang together too well.


What I can say is that situation in the UK is equally bad with the confrontational political style and it is this which in my opinion has caused both countries to become a pale shadow of their former selves.


Also they need to understand that what happens in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Tunisia, Libya and Afghanistan whilst being unacceptable to people in the UK and USA, it is not our country and so is not for us to impose our ways on those nations, however well meaning we might like to think it is. 
Inevitably the West (USA, UK especially) is not well respected in the Middle East and Asia as it is seen to be meddlesome and imperialistic.

I say, fix the problems at home before trying to fix those of other countries.  There are enough unemployed, disenfranchised, poor and needy people in UK and USA without looking abroad.



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steve of oxford wrote: It will be interesting to see how they use Sandy to increase how they look to us

.....be even more interesting to see them admit who is responsible for the asian environmental stress that probably triggered it.


Cant work that one out...  How is that? 
If you believe in global warming it has been caused by the West and recently China and India.
However the real problem is .... Too many people on the planet therefore too many resources being used.  World population needs to be around 2Billion to be sustainable.


"You know it would be really awesome to be able to see a positive future for the USA but ????

......there isn't one. It's doomed....energy starvation, revenge attacks, marginalisation, environmental back lash.

One way or another US is on the way out as a global significance, get used to it mate. Learn from us Brits....adapt to survive. Grin


Not sure that UK has it right, as they seem to bee part of the blight not the solution.
Barclays, RBS, .....any other bank you care to name.  Financial serves is not an economy but it is smoke and mirrors until somebody sees the tricks and lies.
 
Real economy is where you invent or make things!! 
Unfortunately Mrs Thatcher in her effort to crush the unions managed to slay the manufacturing goose as well.



Politicians who needs them ?
Vote for me and the new utopian state.......  (I didnt say that really)
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There's been an election?

I've been outside all day I didn't notice... I am frozen and wet though. ;-)

Can tick a few more jobs off the list/



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Robert wrote:
There's been an election?

I've been outside all day I didn't notice... I am frozen and wet though. ;-)

Can tick a few more jobs off the list/


:rofl: Good one Robert.

I am so glad this election is over. I live in Virginia and it was one of the swing states so both parties focused untold amounts of money and time trying to get our vote. Every day for the past month or so, I received 20-30 phone calls a day from both parties with recordings done by everyone from key politicians to hollywood stars. I even had one from Pat Boone, thought he was dead, telling me what a great guy Romney was. Also received mailings by the boat load daily which went straight into the recycle bin. It's been so peaceful today. Not one phone call all morning and no political mail in todays batch.

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jk wrote:
steve of oxford wrote: It will be interesting to see how they use Sandy to increase how they look to us

.....be even more interesting to see them admit who is responsible for the asian environmental stress that probably triggered it.


Cant work that one out...  How is that? 
If you believe in global warming it has been caused by the West and recently China and India.
However the real problem is .... Too many people on the planet therefore too many resources being used.  World population needs to be around 2Billion to be sustainable.




......The combined population of India & China is 2 billion, a third of total global population. Recently heavily industrialised, a rather short sighted and stupid thing to do given the planet's finite resources and the environment's finite capacity to cope.

 




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Not sure that UK has it right, as they seem to bee part of the blight not the solution.

.....no we're not part of the blight, CIA payrolled quislings like Blair are the problem and the cause.

Financial services is not an economy but it is smoke and mirrors until somebody sees the tricks and lies.

......yep.


Real economy is where you invent or make things!!

.....in that case the US doesn't have an economy, since they've never invented anything i.e. everything they have was invented by a european, or in fact stolen from Germany during WWII, or stolen from England by Churchill and given to the US (don't even think about challenging this one JK, I CAN back up what I say with factual examples)

You know, I was just watching the news which did coverage of Greece, my God are we fortunate compared to those poor people !

Unfortunately Mrs Thatcher in her effort to crush the unions managed to slay the manufacturing goose as well

......Thatcher imported an american union buster: Bill McGregor. As for the manufacturing base, actually it was Wilson who did that, quote him: "manufacturing is finished in this country"...and that from a labour man.

 




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Vote for me and the new utopian state.

.....Ok, as long as you guarantee one manifesto item post election: I want Judith she's gorgeous.

 




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jk wrote: steve of oxford wrote: It will be interesting to see how they use Sandy to increase how they look to us

.....be even more interesting to see them admit who is responsible for the asian environmental stress that probably triggered it.


Cant work that one out...  How is that? 
If you believe in global warming it has been caused by the West and recently China and India.
However the real problem is .... Too many people on the planet therefore too many resources being used.  World population needs to be around 2Billion to be sustainable.


"You know it would be really awesome to be able to see a positive future for the USA but ????

......there isn't one. It's doomed....energy starvation, revenge attacks, marginalisation, environmental back lash.

One way or another US is on the way out as a global significance, get used to it mate. Learn from us Brits....adapt to survive. Grin


Not sure that UK has it right, as they seem to bee part of the blight not the solution.
Barclays, RBS, .....any other bank you care to name.  Financial serves is not an economy but it is smoke and mirrors until somebody sees the tricks and lies.
 
Real economy is where you invent or make things!! 
Unfortunately Mrs Thatcher in her effort to crush the unions managed to slay the manufacturing goose as well.



Politicians who needs them ?
Vote for me and the new utopian state.......  (I didnt say that really)
  :lol:
obama is a big fan of the Fabien Socialists, an English invention of course, their main tenet was Creeping Gradualism through reeducation of the educators, and tearing down centers of prosperity to achieve their goals!! obama seems to be on a steady course to accomplish those goals.. If you think Greece is a mess, wait four years and America will make that look like Child's Play!!
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