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| Posted: Sat Jul 28th, 2012 13:46 |
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Would say if the IP address wasn't right nothing would work? I would try step by step through the setup link I posted. Also I have found turning the cloud off, then back on again can sometimes clear a jam. I had planned to set a PC up for the children at their place but have been avoiding the challenge. I want to set an Apple ID for Michael but he has to be 13 before he can have his own ID. That means I may have to set a second ID up for myself, for him to use.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28th, 2012 20:04 |
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Doug
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Robert wrote:Would say if the IP address wasn't right nothing would work? I had a client with a family pack including 1 account for his <13 yo daughter - unofficial advice from an un-named support channel was just to lie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 02:49 |
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jk
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I havent used iCloud as for me I dont like the idea of off site data storage that is out of my control. DropBox offers similar features and works across multiple platforms. ITunes offers synchronisation with iOs devices for music but in v10 they built in a new checking that allows you to check your library against the iTunes store for up to 20000 tracks. I have more mp3 files than that so it doesnt work for me.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 03:46 |
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Doug
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jk wrote:I havent used iCloud as for me I dont like the idea of off site data storage that is out of my control. Dropbox ≠iCloud
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 14:05 |
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Robert
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Drop box and iCloud are completely and utterly different. I think Doug said that!  (So are IBM Mainframes)   It doesn't matter which Mac computer (Running Mountain Lion) or iDevice you use the same data is there, seamlessly. I can work on a document on my laptop, turn to my desktop and it's there, or I can work on a document at home, visit somebody, open the laptop and it's there. This is NOT restricted to Apple software, it works with any software, although I wouldn't use it for very large files especially with a slow internet connection, although I have put 100Mb images in the cloud for testing purposes. Change or add a bookmark, calendar entry, address book entry or note etc. and it's instantly updated on all my Apple devices. Faster than I can move from one device to the other. You CAN store data 'in the cloud' but the main purpose is document synchronisation, which it does seamlessly and without a glitch. I wouldn't normally 'send' data to an external person or organisation via the iCloud, because as it stands you would have to share your Apple Log in details with them. IF BIG IF I bought an iPad (or any other Mac running Mountain Lion), the instant I entered my Apple ID, all my Bookmarks, Notes, Calendar entries, eMail, Contact details and some other stuff, if I ask for it, will automatically appear on the new device, just like that. And the moment I remove my Apple ID it will all evaporate from the device, poof gone. Drop box doesn't do that.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 17:28 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:
That's assuming the software you use to perform these functions on your PC are syncable. Not sure you could sync emails already downloaded to an email client like Outlook? I would have thought you need to be using webmail? Personally I think all this syncing and immediacy is a bit claustrophobic.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 18:02 |
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Robert
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Regarding Syncing I am speaking Apple only I have no experience of PC's in that sense. I can see the scope for PC synching would be very limited. As for the immediacy and convenience, I find it invaluable, constantly moving between two locations and regularly travelling to other random locations with or without a mobile internet connection, I can pick up exactly where I was no matter which computer I am using, EVEN if it's off line. (Provided it had the opportunity to sync before it went off line of course.) To me this had been the missing piece of the jigsaw of computing. My first impression of the cloud was dismissive, I saw no need to have identical bookmarks on all my devices, nor any other enforced synchronisation. It doesn't work like that. With bookmarks it has forced me to organise them better so they work as well on my laptop 13" screen as on my 24" home screen. But for documents you can choose if you want to make them available to the other devices via iCloud or not. Some I share, some I don't, easy. The data exists on the client computer or iDevice it was created on, in the iCloud, if that option was chosen when the document was first saved and it exists on any other computer or iDevice which is signed into that account. I am finding working with broadly one set of data across several computers and locations is a dream.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2012 20:22 |
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Doug
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Eric wrote:Not sure you could sync emails already downloaded to an email client like Outlook? I would have thought you need to be using webmail? Claustrophobic? Quite the opposite, it's complete freedom Re: syncing mails from Outllook Again - outside of the gamut of iCloud with one exception If you ever had an email address from Apple (@mac or @me) but owned a PC and used Outlook then yes, emails would just sync with Mail on any Apple device This is because Apple use(d) the IMAP protocol instead of the aging POP If you have GMail or have used IMAP with any address in Outlook then your experience should be similar except it is NOT icloud doing the syncing, but rather your web server (this has been possible for at least 13 years) Most people don't know of the advantages of IMAP and some services (Bigpond and Hotmail for most of it's history) do not permit IMAP usage (it does require more storage and more chatter with the server) Many people just use webmail to get similar functionality, but of course you can't manage that or send/receive easily without being live and logged in
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30th, 2012 04:06 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote: Regarding Syncing I am speaking Apple only I have no experience of PC's in that sense. I can see the scope for PC synching would be very limited.I can see in your situation where you are regularly moving between 2 locations and wanting to continue working on something, how it could be useful. Personally I have all my planning, appointments, to-do lists and day to day stuff exclusively on the ipad ...which either sits (like an old fashioned diary/notepad) on my desk, on the armchair or travels with me. I have no need to access my office computers from any other location as all my immediate reference items are with me. I cant work with Quark, Indesign or want to use Photoshop on an ipad. In fact I regard these ipad limitations, to be a blessing .... not being a a slave to work when away from the desk. Recent completed work (awaiting client approval) and my portfolio are in my Dropbox so they can be accessed if required. (eg. to make reference to some work or show a client something on screen) I have as yet never had such an urgent need to change artwork while sat in the supermarket carpark or down the beach. Work and other computing tasks can wait till I get home....in just the same way phonecalls used to have to wait before the advent of mobiles. Nothing really spoils...except in life threatening circumstances. Dont get me wrong, they, and mobile computing are a huge benefit to many people and critical in some situations. I just think for many, there's a bit of the emperor's clothes about this supposed need to be 'in contact' with the mothership all the time.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30th, 2012 07:12 |
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richw
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One big benefit for me is instant backup. I use my iPad a lot for work and have had iCloud syncing since Lion. I have dropped the iPad a couple of times and there is a bit of damage, if not for the security of iCloud I would probably have replaced it as I would be worried about losing data if it failed. With iCloud this is not an issue, everything is instantly backed up. By the way I installed Mountain Lion on Sat, so far everything is working well, but I have annoyed my wife sending her SMS messages from the computer to her phone using Messages. With a proper keyboard I can finally keep up!
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