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Posted: Mon May 7th, 2012 11:56
 
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There is another thread debating the relative merits of different software packages. I was intrigued by some of the comments regarding the numbers of photos people have kept and catalogued.

This is genuine enquiry as to why you keep and 'bother' to catalogue your images? Do you have a frequent need to search and sort your images? Do you really keep so many photos, just in case you may need them in the future?

I don't know how many shots I have taken both socially and commercially over the last 30years. But I cannot remember 'losing' an image and never 'needed' extraordinary search assistance, to retrieve an image.

I say this, not to cause offence or question everyone's personal recall skills...I would like to know how the sort of cataloguing you mention would help me?

I genuinely don't understand how putting all your photos in one big pile, then getting software to sort it out again is better than compartmentalising the photos into folders in the first place.

Commercially I have a range of clients. Their images are stored in folders bearing their name and the month. Each year the folders are restarted.
I may do 1 or 2 hundred shots on the day, but after the client selection the majority of the images are never needed or even thought of again. So why put them in a catalogue?

Maybe it's the type of work I do?

But this approach has rubbed off in my social photography. I know where and when the image I want was taken ...before I hit a key.

I am sure most of you guys can do this as well.

So I do wonder how changing my whole method of referencing images would be of benefit?

What am I missing?

Edit.. Forgot to add ...I can understand if you are taking repeated shots of a similar subject (flowers, insects or some specialised category) it could be beneficial to search 'pink flowers' or 'red spiders' . But for general photography across a range of subjetcs I am unsure.



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Posted: Mon May 7th, 2012 12:14
 
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i,m with you on this one eric ,got thousands of images over the last few years ,back up onto a separate hard drive yearly to have a clean computer but i can tell you where and when every shot was taken just by viewing it ,mind you twenty odd years of taxi driving is supposed to make the brain work so perhaps its just us two ,now where did i leave my camera :banghead:

 




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I keyword every photo I keep if only to locate it to a country and location. Thereafter I cant be bothered to put in too much extra keyword data.

I can usually remember which country it was taken it so having that keyword reduces the count then I can usually remember the year and content. So I would keyword with Spain, Trees, Leaves, Autumn for a picture I took in Spain of autumn leaves. I dont take too many pictures of the same thing unless I am doing a particular theme and anyway I can always add '2010' or whatever year to narrow the search further.

All my pictures are in directories by camera and country/month/year e.g. Spain-May2012. I also do Dance-May2012 and if I was in Australia or wherever I would have a directory of Australia-May2012.

Lightroom automatically catalogues by date and time.



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Posted: Mon May 7th, 2012 14:47
 
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I keyword my macro work ... by common and latin name and also by class (beetle, cricket etc.). Otherwise it is impossible for me to remember when (if not where) I saw anything. As i tend to archive by date, keyword searching is critical.

Yes I know I could archive by type, but that is too much like hard work.

Otherwise, key wording is to a minimum.

 




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I think that approach is best unless you are curator of an image library selling banks of images.

I can find most images I want by doing a search on date and my likely keywords then at least I only have 20-50 images to look at rather than searching through 100000+ images.



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Posted: Tue May 8th, 2012 03:40
 
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Well I'm just a hobbiest but I'll give you my tuppence worth.

There are certain things I choose to keyword, for example if I search 'Mum', I'll get every photo I have since 2005 with my mum in it. It's also so easy to do, - so why not? I do keep far too many shots though, so my catalogue is probably much larger than it should be.

My workflow is entirely base around Lightroom, and this means it is very streamlined.

 




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I use Aperture and it forces me to get organized. All photos are broken into Projects, Folder, Albums, etc. So 1 of my projects is Vacations and under that Project I have Albums for each vacation we take with all the photos in there. Another Project is Nature Shots with Albums for flowers, animals, nudist camps (just kidding) etc. I think you get the idea. I also keyword all family photos.

Probably too elementary for you guys but it is easy for me to find everything I need.



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Posted: Tue May 8th, 2012 19:12
 
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I keyword every image. Even took the time to go back to my early BW negs and scan and keyword them.

If I want to make a blurb book about dogs, simple to find every dog I ever shot.

If Marianne wants to make a book, I set her up at my imac and run media pro and let her knock herself out with searches.

I probably tend to keep more shots than I should - but then, later many that seemed worthless can be used in collage pages or in an out-take section of a book.

A lot of things, like events or a particular house I shot might be as easy to find by searching on the folder name, but then I do have that, too, but it is also nice to be able to sort on Bedrooms or Patios.

Do I search often - maybe a few times a month for a single shot, but then when we make a blurb book, we will use it for hours at a time.

I guess my answer is - why not do both.

Getting started is the hard part, especially if you have 30 years worth - maybe too much work to justify. But if you have a small data base now, it would be silly not to take a few extra minutes to keyword as you archive...

Haven't you ever spent half an hour trying to find a certain photo? With a data base, it should never be more than a few minutes to run a few different searches and find just about anything.

Then again, maybe I'm too anal :-)

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Posted: Thu May 10th, 2012 23:59
 
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Long folder names, sometimes long filenames too. Used to be a major pain in Windows 3.1 days....



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Posted: Sun May 13th, 2012 10:22
 
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Zactly Eric???

I have been assembling images for a book on motorcycle racing back in the 70's. And as I go through all those old negative, scanning and trying to make something understandable out of the lot!!  I can remember riders names, places, incidents, like it was yesteray, and I can tell you my image storage techniques back then consisted on a folded sheet of 8.5X11 paper and the barest if any notations.. So I guess I have come a long way today!!

Today I have my image drive set up by year, and everything I put into those files is identified by a simple reference to what is in the folder, period..

I have had tons of help trying to use one or the other of several image cataloging software's, and it just doesn't work for me???

Something along the lines of "Teaching and Old Dog, New Tricks" I assume!!

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