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Posted: Mon Apr 22nd, 2013 16:12
 
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Actually, I did brush in a little more detail in the foreground.

Masking the sky might not work...the changes are applied in ACR and I don't think I can mask first, but what do I know :-)



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TomOC wrote:
Actually, I did brush in a little more detail in the foreground.

Masking the sky might not work...the changes are applied in ACR and I don't think I can mask first, but what do I know :-)


Open the file a second time as a layer, with different settings. You can then selectively erase or blend. ;-)



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Eric wrote:
While we are waiting with baited breath for Toms technique how about debating whether it's photography or not?

I hear so many people talk about post capture manipulation not being 'real photography', I wonder if the converted camera mob will draw the same comparison with IR?

Personally I stopped bothering about these 'differences' soon after getting my first digital camera. In fact my business slogan was 'creating a better image'. Whilst it was aimed at improving companies product and presentation appearance, the double meaning was always there.

Have always subscribed to the belief that 'inside every good photo, there is a great image waiting to be released'.


I totally agree Eric, the skill in producing the final image regardless of what techniques/tools you use to get there.

 




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OK I have been playing with the method that Tom sent me.
Download the attached zip file to your desktop and expand it to get 'False IR.xmp


If you then open an image file (RAW or JPG) with ACR then in the Basic tab (right corner there is a funny icon) you then apply the XMP file, called 'False IR.xmp' (in the attached zip file), by doing a Load Settings.
Voila....
The image is False IR processed by the method described in the magazine.

You can then Open Image and play in Photoshop.

Attachment: False IR.xmp.zip (Downloaded 5 times)



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The resulting Before/After is like this.

Attachment: XP1-1-3153-colour-ir-web.jpg (Downloaded 29 times)



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Next stage is to tweak and play in Photoshop to get it just how you like it.



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Eric wrote:
TomOC wrote:
Actually, I did brush in a little more detail in the foreground.

Masking the sky might not work...the changes are applied in ACR and I don't think I can mask first, but what do I know :-)


Open the file a second time as a layer, with different settings. You can then selectively erase or blend. ;-)


Right...I was thinking of an ACR only solution.

Thanks

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Good work, JK !!!

Now, would you mind doing one for IR color? :-) :-) :-)



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Ive managed to find an IR image with a corresponding colour shot that I could convert with the ACR method.

Although the D7000 image has more detail (new sensor, more pixels, no internal IR glass?) and produces an interesting image, the ACR technique is causing artefacts at leaf/sky interfaces. (you may need to download the image to see it more clearly)

The problem is, the rimlighting effect you get with leaves against the sky, bleeds colour as well as light onto the leaves. This then is neither green or cyan...but a colour somewhere between that the simple ACR sliders cant isolate and convert adequately.

The ACR image has benefits ...I just wonder what a D7000 converted to IR would deliver?





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if you cant download it this is a sectional enlargement from under the D200 (left) and D7000 (right) captions.

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