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Posted: Fri Jan 4th, 2013 14:14
 
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Squarerigger wrote:I have done some preliminary research on photoshop. Very expensive! However, it can be used as an external editor to Aperture and seems most Aperture users in fact do this.  Did I mention it is very expensive?
My wife does not wear hats and I am sure your wife would hate to part with such a fashion statement. :rofl:


Lightroom and Aperture are very equivalent programs, personally I prefer Lightroom but if cost is an issue and you already own Aperture you won't gain much by picking up Lightroom.

I would look at Elements, you get most of the capability of Photoshop at a reduced price. Alternatively you could break new ground and get a free version of GIMP, however as the user base is much smaller (including on here) I would be reluctant to go down this route as tutorials/advice are much harder to come by.

 




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That's very true Aperture and LR are very similar.
IMHO if you want to image edit then you need to use Photoshop (PS) or GIMP.
The latest version of GIMP V.2.8 onwards is more like Photoshop but it doesnt have the Actions of PS.
The Actions of PS make it so much more useful. There are scripts in GIMP but they are difficult to make compared to the PS Actions.



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LSquarerigger wrote: Alright Eric, after playing around, I mean spending quality time, trying to perfect this photograph, I have come on the solution. It is so obvious I don't know why I didn't think of it in the first place. Not nearly as expensive as the photoshop program. Instead of having the shopping bag be a distraction, make the shopping bag the focus of the photo. Crop out the gentleman and leave the bag. Now if I have shot at f11 instead of f3.5 the damn bag may be sharper. Don't tell me, photoshop can correct that?
I won't say what my wife thinks of this idea but it can't hurt if I should come groveling for money to buy photoshop. ;-)

What do you think?:-)
This is one for Kathy's artistic techniques.
I think it was morphing in Faststone...really impressive results.:thumbsup:



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Can photoshop elements accomplish the same things Eric did to the B&W shot with photoshop cs? 



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Squarerigger wrote: Can photoshop elements accomplish the same things Eric did to the B&W shot with photoshop cs? 

I don't have it myself, but I am certain it can.

 




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Not sure how good the latest version of Elements is as I dont have a recent copy.



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richw wrote: Squarerigger wrote: Can photoshop elements accomplish the same things Eric did to the B&W shot with photoshop cs? 

I don't have it myself, but I am certain it can.

Thanks Rich. Elements is $600+ less expensive than Photoshop CS6. Maybe I should take a look at this. Photoshop may be more than I need and most probably more than I can comprehend. Bears some thinking. 
Maybe Eric is right and I have some Yorkshire blood. Not sure as my Mother was from St. Helens near Liverpool. Maybe some relative since parting with money is not one of my strong suits.  



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Squarerigger wrote: richw wrote: Squarerigger wrote: Can photoshop elements accomplish the same things Eric did to the B&W shot with photoshop cs? 

I don't have it myself, but I am certain it can.

Thanks Rich. Elements is $600+ less expensive than Photoshop CS6. Maybe I should take a look at this. Photoshop may be more than I need and most probably more than I can comprehend. Bears some thinking. 
Maybe Eric is right and I have some Yorkshire blood. Not sure as my Mother was from St. Helens near Liverpool. Maybe some relative since parting with money is not one of my strong suits.  

I did have a look atElements last year and it can do everything you need. I found it a bit slow and clunky compared to Photoshop.

I have been using CS3 since it was released ..and I still haven't outgrown it.

Many of the new features they added to CS4, 5 and 6 are what I would call flavours. That's because you use them for a while, then lose the taste for them and revert to the basic core functions. That's not to say there aren't some nice new features worth using. I do have CS5 on my computer (i skipped CS4) but on balance I still prefer the less complicated, more simplistic interface of CS3. In some ways I find it more responsive doing the basic functions.
So...if you can get hold of a copy of CS3, you would have a lot of capacity for a discounted price.






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gary why not go for elements ,and you can buy/download it cheap from the APP store on apple ,it will give you most of what you need without the expense of the full version .
 all my pics are pre-edited (downloaded ) into apeture 3 then finished off in elements 10  .if i can do it at nearly 70 i,m sure you can 

 




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Eric wrote: Squarerigger wrote: richw wrote: Squarerigger wrote: Can photoshop elements accomplish the same things Eric did to the B&W shot with photoshop cs? 

I don't have it myself, but I am certain it can.

Thanks Rich. Elements is $600+ less expensive than Photoshop CS6. Maybe I should take a look at this. Photoshop may be more than I need and most probably more than I can comprehend. Bears some thinking. 
Maybe Eric is right and I have some Yorkshire blood. Not sure as my Mother was from St. Helens near Liverpool. Maybe some relative since parting with money is not one of my strong suits.  

I did have a look atElements last year and it can do everything you need. I found it a bit slow and clunky compared to Photoshop.

I have been using CS3 since it was released ..and I still haven't outgrown it.

Many of the new features they added to CS4, 5 and 6 are what I would call flavours. That's because you use them for a while, then lose the taste for them and revert to the basic core functions. That's not to say there aren't some nice new features worth using. I do have CS5 on my computer (i skipped CS4) but on balance I still prefer the less complicated, more simplistic interface of CS3. In some ways I find it more responsive doing the basic functions.
So...if you can get hold of a copy of CS3, you would have a lot of capacity for a discounted price.





I had a quick look on Amazon for CS3 and wouldn't you know they spotted your endorsement of CS3 and now it costs MORE than CS6. Odd. Have not looked on ebay and never been very keen on ebay.



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