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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 14:12 |
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...it invariably is! The 80-400 is going back for a refund. Having done exhaustive tests this lens just isn't good enough.  At 400mm it's no where near as sharp as my 300mmP lens WITH the 1.4x teleconverter attached! Now I know you get lens to lens variation. I myself tried 3 different 17-35mm zooms back in the day before getting a sharp one. So maybe the first owner of this found it was soft too late and took a big PX hit on it. Hopefully they will refund my payment in full and I can start again. I could buy a new one and keep trying/buying till I get a good one. But strangely the WEX technical support were at pains to point out that the zoom isn't as sharp as the new prime...especially with a teleconverter added. Now they could have been trying to persuade me to hang onto it...but as I said "why would I want to keep something that's not as sharp as what I have already, at half the weight?". Or they may just have been spouting conventional wisdom re zooms versus primes. Whatever the reasoning I wasn't buying their thinking, any more than buying an inferior lens. My hope was to use the teleconverter on the 400mm...in fact it was my raison d'ªtre for buying it....I've already got 420mm! The drop off in IQ was significant on this lens even without the tc ...so no point. I am tempted to bide my time before buying another and wait to see what the 500m P lens delivers. There is no doubt the weight of the 80-400 is noticeable walking round a reserve all day ...being twice the weight of the 300mm f4. And I never used the zoom wider than 400mm, as everything was typically too distant....even when an egret flew passed the window it was at 400mm. So it will be interesting to see what the 500 weighs in at...kg and ££. In the meantime I will take my existing kit on holiday and decide course of action when I return. Who. knows...there may be a mirrorless Nikon to distract me this autumn while I wait the arrival of the 500mm. 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 14:20 |
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Eric
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crop comparison .... each part was around 1/6th of full frame from middle of lens at f11 and 1/2000th.. Ok left image is bigger at 420mm...but that's not the iq difference. Attachment: 5E756F44-0532-4487-B081-E0BA18E6C14B.jpeg (Downloaded 14 times)
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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 14:58 |
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Robert
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Not just the sharpness, the colour contrast is muted too. The green panel at the bottom of the image is muddy on the 400, nice and bright from the PF+TC.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 15:24 |
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jk
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Definitely agree. Prime is sharper. If you want to practice your weighlifting the my 400mm f2.8 AFS can be yours as I will be trading it in now I have the 200-500.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 16:32 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:Definitely agree. Prime is sharper. If you want to practice your weighlifting the my 400mm f2.8 AFS can be yours as I will be trading it in now I have the 200-500. You're all heart Jonathan.  I don't need 400mm...I've got 420mm. (Left example) I was hoping the 80-400 would give me 560mm...but THIS LENS is not right. I wish I had tried Graham's version when we were at Frampton to compare his lens against my 300mm. Hindsight again. 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 16:33 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Not just the sharpness, the colour contrast is muted too. The green panel at the bottom of the image is muddy on the 400, nice and bright from the PF+TC. Agreed.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 17:00 |
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Robert
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Eric wrote:I wish I had tried Graham's version when we were at Frampton to compare his lens against my 300mm. Well I did! But I guess there is no comparison with a mere 12Mp D3 FX (Lovely brick size pixels! LOL). I have just had a look, I have a few taken with Graham's lens, nothing spectacular but if you like I could post them, you might even have some shots of the same birds, taken with your combo.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 9th, 2018 02:29 |
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jk
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It is always difficult with these items. How good is a lens required to be? It is disappointing if you find another identical unit which performs better. That is the real issue, if we didnt have the comparison then we would be happy but as soon as you find it is less good we are disappointed. I dont know the answer as for each and every one of us it is different.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 9th, 2018 04:43 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:It is always difficult with these items. Looking at this differently I might have an exceptionally good 300mm
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| Posted: Thu Aug 9th, 2018 04:49 |
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Eric
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Robert wrote:Eric wrote: Don't bother Robert. This lens is going back and at this stage knowing more about Grahams lens wouldn't change my mind. Graham may be coming up to Norfolk in late September....so that would be an ideal time to try his lens. It could give me reassurance there are better versions out there....but I still need to decide if 400mm is the most I need. In some ways I was considering it as an interim lens till the 500 could be assessed.
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