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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 02:40 |
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highlander
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I am trying to decide which of two ultra wides to go for as I get both from Ffordes used. Tokina 11-16 f2.8 Or Tokina 12-24 f4 I have 18-200 covered although I find the distortion on this at the wide end horrendous I will be shooting landscapes mainly, possibly some architecture. I rarely use or worry about the fast end as mostly I'm f8/f11 minimum and using a tripod so VR doesn't matter. I can hand hold to 1/30 anyway. Too many years practice! I've heard the 11-16 is the "better" lens, and sharper. But the range of the 12-24 seems more practical. DXO results on the two seem close, the 11-16 has the edge. Either will be "better" optically than my 18-200 of course. Going on a D7100 if that makes any difference
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 02:43 |
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jk
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Looks like the Tokina 12-24 would be better for you as you find the 18 end of the 18-200 is no good. Either lens you will need to use around f8 to get sharp edges so it makes little difference. I always discount DXO tests as they are lab results and arent real shooting. They dont test for flare, etc, jus the lab test stuff. Real life shooting is so different.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 04:09 |
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Gilbert Sandberg
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H, In my book any combination of zoom and architecture is a no-no. The trouble is that market forces dictate that most lenses for DX are zooms, so you lose out as you want a non-distorting wide-angle on DX. Regards, Gilbert
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 05:15 |
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Eric
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Every ultra wide zoom I have used suffers from less than ideal performance at the widest setting. I bought the Sigma 10-20 for hotel bedroom shots and never needed (or wanted) to use it at 10mm. 12mm was wide enough even for the smallest hotel room interior shots. At 10mm you started to loose edge fidelity. I bought the Sigma12-24 ....and discovered the same max wide quality drop. So the point is...a bit like the wisdom to stop down a lenses aperture for best quality, I would recommend backing off the zoom. Putting it another way...the 12mm on the 11-16 will probably be better than the 12 on the 12-24. Just my 2cents
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 05:41 |
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Robert
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Have you considered the Samyang wides? They have quite a range. I am with Gilbert and Eric on this one, zooms far from ideal, far too may compromises and with the Sigma 10-20 I almost always backed off to 12mm. Sigma 10-20 1/10 Sec, f4.5, ISO250, @ 12mm 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 07:59 |
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highlander
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I think most of the shoots will be landscape with only occasional buildings and not for commercial purposes. I am just wondering if it is better to stick with the bigger zoom, i.e. the 12-24 because I am more likely to use this for more subjects, and so it might end up living on the camera, whereas the 11-16 will be so wide and limited to being that wide, that it become very specific to sweeping landscapes? Is the image quality difference so much? I have looked on flickr groups and pbase. But its seems to be six of one and half a dozen of the other again.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 08:45 |
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Robert
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I think there is a wide sample ranged with these lenses. Be prepared to return one or two... Especially if they are 'used', they may be rejects. Mine, ex. Eric was really good sample but I have heard of poor ones. If you went for the widest shortest range option, you may as well go for a fixed focal length. Trouble is you can't crop wider like you can crop longer with a tele lens. You can however very easily make small panorama's at zero cost without having to buy or carry another lens. I quite ofter take two or three exposures and stitch them. Unfortunately you can't easily make panoramas of stars, they are constantly moving.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 09:15 |
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jk
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highlander wrote: I think most of the shoots will be landscape with only occasional buildings and not for commercial purposes. I think the 12-24 mm (18-35mm FX) is a much more useful lens. For me the best utility lens I have is the Nikon 35-105 f3.5-5.6 (FX) or 28-105 f3.5-5.6 (FX). The 35-105 is very small for its quality and range. I still have a Sigma 24-60 f2.8 zoom that I had before I got the Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 AFS, I use it when I need a smaller lighter setup.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 14:26 |
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Eric
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I had forgotten you had my 10-20......that WAS a good lens. Have you got my lawnmower....couldn't find it in the shed? 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2016 15:49 |
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jk
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Eric wrote: I seem to have a double post infection.Cured. 
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