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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 03:45 |
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Graham Whistler
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JK said last bird topic is getting too large so lets start a new one for 2020. Come on members lets see some more super bird photography.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 03:53 |
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Graham Whistler
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Eric has been working on my Little Owls from the old Bird topic so here is his skilled Photoshopping!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 07:13 |
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Eric
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Not sure it's that good, there are several errors I couldn't be bothered to correct. But as I said in my email to you Graham...it poses an interesting conundrum when it comes to wildlife photography. Where do you draw the line with regard to a natural shot? If a free flying bird lands on a water bath in your garden...is it 'wrong' to remove the concrete bath for a branch to make it more natural? We put food out to attract birds, then try to photograph them on a posing stick next to the food. Isn't that bending nature itself? I personally feel that it's the finished photograph that matters, not how it was achieved. Take for example Barrie....  Barrie was tethered to a block with Jessies in an open grass area with other hawks waiting for his turn at the free flying display. Crowds of people in the background, other birds, mowed grass etc. So I removed the Jessie's, cropped the post and replaced the background with a barn. I liked the final image because I had introduced BACK a more natural setting. Is that 'wrong'? In this instance I was on the marsh in Norfolk trying to photograph spoonbills. You can see one in the background. Couldn't hope to get closer and not having massive lenses back then it was a nothing image. But on visiting a bird reserve with walk through aviary I was fortunate enough to have a spoonbill fly across in front of me. So the caged background was edited out and the bird superimposed over my marsh image. Was that wrong?  Well it was actually wrong in one way....Mike (my birding expert) pointed out it was not a European spoonbill (think it's Asian) and if that had been on the marsh the whole Twitching world would have been there too. Should I have removed my patio from this natural visitor?  Not just birds. I have visited several breeding centres for big cats and wolves where chaperoned close access enabled the lens to go through the wire fences....being abruptly dragged back when the animals came too close. (I backed away myself from one approach and my rugsack came so close to the fenced area behind i was nearly grabbed by a snow leapoard poking its paw through to get me.    Does Where and How matter more than the result??
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 07:54 |
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jk
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Answering Eric's points I tend to think that it is a question of content. Removing distractions is fine, adding new backgrounds/compositing is not. However who am I to judge if it pleases the taker/poster.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 08:11 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:Answering Eric's points I tend to think that it is a question of content. I confess I have merely tarted up photos in recent times...but not from a feeling it was wrong to go further. I am simply being lazy. I however don't think it's wrong to replace detail. Infra red photos are heavily edited to get the results. I've never had anyone say they are contrived and unreal.....because they ARE inherently unreal. We use HDR and selective masking for sharpness, noise reduction, adding dof lens blur and who knows what else. I don't see that as interfering with the subject....merely enhancing it with respect to its surroundings. So why not change the perch or even the background? Like I said, of late I have been trying to get it good enough in the camera to use 'as is'. But I have some cracking long tail tit shots...bathing and drinking in a concrete water bath which Graham tells me would be 'marked down' in a competition for not being natural enough. I could set up an infinity pool with moss covered stones for a more natural look. But that's surely no different to redoing the setting in PS. 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 08:13 |
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Eric
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Sorry for thread drift Graham...no more furry critters.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 12:12 |
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Graham Whistler
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Now this IS a wild pair of African Spoonbills in the bush in Africa in eary morning sun. No messing in Photoshop apart from levels.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 12:35 |
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Graham Whistler
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Just to get things moving another wild bird for you, a Scarlet Ibis
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 12:49 |
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Graham Whistler
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Then there were more!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 13:26 |
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jk
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I like the 'more' picture better. 
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