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Posted: Wed May 2nd, 2012 09:09
 
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I'd probably pick the D800, but the D800E sure is a tempting option

RobGalbraith has some nice comparisons showing the increased sharpness and moir© issues here
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11676-12555



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I did this assessment when the details of the D800, D800E and D4 were out.

I came to the same conclusions as you regarding this.
I cant see the point of the extra hassle surrounding the use of the D800E.
I guess some product photographers will actually benefit but I think it will cause me more problems than give advantage.



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I won't be getting either camera but from my own perspective I found the D800e photos to be sharper, more defined and the color better. Now keep in mind I am color blind so you and I aren't seeing the same thing :rofl:



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To me the 800E starts to look like it has sharpening artefacts. (the motorbike number plate in particular) although I know it isnt. Just starts to look too harsh.

I wonder how much unsharp mask you need to apply to the 800 to get to the same effect?

Not sure I would want to do any digital sharpening of the 800E image.


If I am correct in that observation, I think I would go with the 800 and sharpen to taste.




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Eric wrote:
To me the 800E starts to look like it has sharpening artefacts. (the motorbike number plate in particular) although I know it isnt. Just starts to look too harsh.

I wonder how much unsharp mask you need to apply to the 800 to get to the same effect?

Not sure I would want to do any digital sharpening of the 800E image.


If I am correct in that observation, I think I would go with the 800 and sharpen to taste.



Eric, I am not sure what you mean by sharpening artefacts, can you explain?

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Squarerigger wrote:
Eric wrote:
To me the 800E starts to look like it has sharpening artefacts. (the motorbike number plate in particular) although I know it isnt. Just starts to look too harsh.

I wonder how much unsharp mask you need to apply to the 800 to get to the same effect?

Not sure I would want to do any digital sharpening of the 800E image.


If I am correct in that observation, I think I would go with the 800 and sharpen to taste.



Eric, I am not sure what you mean by sharpening artefacts, can you explain?

Thanks


Over sharpening can result in a halo effect along high contrast edges.

I will do some examples tomorrow if I get a minute. On iPad at the moment.



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Oversharpening is visible on a lot of magazine images as people tend to oversharpen.



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D800 is quite sharp enough for me and as stated while I was away my D3X has been sold. The D800 is far sharper more fine detail than the D3X so progress over last 3 years shows. Auto focus also quicker and low noise at high ISO is better, now back in UK will do more tests on high ISO and report back results.

I am unable at present able to comment on the D800E as I have seen no pixs as internet not been very fast while in USA and no time to look!



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Eric wrote:
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Eric wrote:
To me the 800E starts to look like it has sharpening artefacts. (the motorbike number plate in particular) although I know it isnt. Just starts to look too harsh.

I wonder how much unsharp mask you need to apply to the 800 to get to the same effect?

Not sure I would want to do any digital sharpening of the 800E image.


If I am correct in that observation, I think I would go with the 800 and sharpen to taste.



Eric, I am not sure what you mean by sharpening artefacts, can you explain?

Thanks


Over sharpening can result in a halo effect along high contrast edges.

I will do some examples tomorrow if I get a minute. On iPad at the moment.


I look forward to seeing what you are talking about. I always thought a sharp photo was one that was spot on focus. Now I have to come to grips with a photo being too sharp?



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Gary not too sharp, but oversharpened. :-)

I'm sure that Eric's examples will demonstrate the point very well.



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